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Old 11-18-2013, 08:23 AM   #1
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I can't get riled up about RG3's performance in the Shanahan's offense at this point because it just isn't relevant to his future. There's a little bit of cause for concern at this point, but not matter how many stinkers he puts up from now until the end of the year, it won't matter in a year.
I would like to think that what you predict comes to pass; that, after this season, RGIII will no longer be condemned to taking too many hits on designed QB running plays in this offense.

If I were Dan Snyder, I would be very troubled about the immediate future of my Franchise QB in this offense. The way RGIII is being used in the running game is irresponsible, IMO. I believe that RGIII may be running more on the pro level than he did in college. That is Ngata good idea. Actually, it is a recipe for disaster.

Did my eyes deceive me, or did the Shanny's actually run a 1950's style Oklahoma Triple Option play with RGIII?! Sometimes I'd swear they are trying to get him reinjured with the stupid crap they ask him to do.

Frankly, I'd welcome a little meddling by Dan Snyder in this case, if just to tell Shanny to cut out the designed running plays by RGIII. It's time for DS to step in and protect his most valuable player asset from the Shanahans who I think are myopically and callously shortening RGIII"s career.

Also, isn't it about time for RGIII to receive the benefits of having a top-notch QB coach?
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Old 11-18-2013, 08:45 AM   #2
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Eagles 24, Redskins 16: Ten Observations - NFC East Blog - ESPN
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Old 11-18-2013, 09:03 AM   #3
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Yes, receiver Josh Morgan is clearly frustrated and told reporters that he was told he couldn’t talk after the game, then later telling The Washington Post, “Coach said I can’t talk. Coach said I can’t play football and I can’t talk.” Don’t know if that’s really true or not; Shanahan had already spoken by the time Morgan said this and could not be reached later. Morgan was inactive. He’s been frustrated for a couple weeks, but Morgan hasn’t been productive. He was given numerous chances to produce in various roles and did not do so. The Redskins paid him $6 million this season. We’ll call this Exhibit A as to why free agency is not a slam dunk answer and why the salary cap mess can’t be blamed for all that ails Washington.


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Yes, receiver Josh Morgan is clearly frustrated and told reporters that he was told he couldn’t talk after the game, then later telling The Washington Post, “Coach said I can’t talk. Coach said I can’t play football and I can’t talk.” Don’t know if that’s really true or not; Shanahan had already spoken by the time Morgan said this and could not be reached later. Morgan was inactive. He’s been frustrated for a couple weeks, but Morgan hasn’t been productive. He was given numerous chances to produce in various roles and did not do so. The Redskins paid him $6 million this season. We’ll call this Exhibit A as to why free agency is not a slam dunk answer and why the salary cap mess can’t be blamed for all that ails Washington.


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This is part of the reason Shanny needs to go, poor personel decisions. Im still lost, why the fuck did we draft LeRibus? Because he went to fucking SMU?
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Old 11-18-2013, 12:46 PM   #5
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This is part of the reason Shanny needs to go, poor personel decisions. Im still lost, why the fuck did we draft LeRibus? Because he went to fucking SMU?
Bingo - Shanny makes decision based on faith in people he knows. Like Burns on special needs teams and Le Rib. Shanny remembered Le Rib's coach from the glory days. Shanny smiled and said, "Son, we are drafting the Tex Mex eating championship first ballot hall of famer". MY buddy said he's a good kid.
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Old 11-18-2013, 09:10 AM   #6
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Yes, receiver Josh Morgan is clearly frustrated and told reporters that he was told he couldn’t talk after the game, then later telling The Washington Post, “Coach said I can’t talk. Coach said I can’t play football and I can’t talk.” Don’t know if that’s really true or not; Shanahan had already spoken by the time Morgan said this and could not be reached later. Morgan was inactive. He’s been frustrated for a couple weeks, but Morgan hasn’t been productive. He was given numerous chances to produce in various roles and did not do so. The Redskins paid him $6 million this season. We’ll call this Exhibit A as to why free agency is not a slam dunk answer and why the salary cap mess can’t be blamed for all that ails Washington.


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Josh failed us. He was put in position to make plays even when e was demoted. The doghouse of shanahan is quite a bitter place to be. What is the redskins tally of Shanny doghousing per year or total?
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$6 million wasted on Josh's bum ass. He was supposed to break loose this season after his offseason surgeries. Someone better will be found for '14
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Redskins players: Eagles ‘knew what was coming’ on offense and defense


“They did a good job of scheming us up,” quarterback Robert Griffin said. “They kind of knew what was coming before it was coming and that was disheartening. But like I told the guys, regardless of what’s going on out there, we’re the players and we have to make the plays work, and we just weren’t doing that in the first half.”
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They did a good job of scheming us up,” quarterback Robert Griffin said. “They kind of knew what was coming before it was coming and that was disheartening. But like I told the guys, regardless of what’s going on out there, we’re the players and we have to make the plays work, and we just weren’t doing that in the first half.”
Its called being "outcoached"
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Its called being "outcoached"

Damn I hate to admit this but Mike has been a failure in DC and I was like the biggest Shanny guy from day 1 smh
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Redskins players: Eagles ‘knew what was coming’ on offense and defense


“They did a good job of scheming us up,” quarterback Robert Griffin said. “They kind of knew what was coming before it was coming and that was disheartening. But like I told the guys, regardless of what’s going on out there, we’re the players and we have to make the plays work, and we just weren’t doing that in the first half.”
We could look that way too if we had a pass rush.
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Redskins players: Eagles ‘knew what was coming’ on offense and defense


“They did a good job of scheming us up,” quarterback Robert Griffin said. “They kind of knew what was coming before it was coming and that was disheartening. But like I told the guys, regardless of what’s going on out there, we’re the players and we have to make the plays work, and we just weren’t doing that in the first half.”
No need to call out the coaches to the media. I guess when he threw the ball 15 feet over the wr's heads that it was Kyle's fault. He just needs to shut the hell up cause he sure did his part in sucking yesterday. He looks like Clinton Portis right now. Keep it behind closed doors.

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“They did a good job of scheming us up,” quarterback Robert Griffin said. “They kind of knew what was coming before it was coming and that was disheartening. But like I told the guys, regardless of what’s going on out there, we’re the players and we have to make the plays work, and we just weren’t doing that in the first half.”
Note to Griffin - It didn't look like Philly knew what was coming when you overthrew Paulson by 10 yards on the first drive. That play was a GREAT call, and might have gone for a TD, but your throw wouldn't have hit the side of a barn. Acknowledge your recurring inaccuracy and your poor decision on the final INT before throwing the game plan (coaches) under the bus.
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Note to Griffin - It didn't look like Philly knew what was coming when you overthrew Paulson by 10 yards on the first drive. That play was a GREAT call, and might have gone for a TD, but your throw wouldn't have hit the side of a barn. Acknowledge your recurring inaccuracy and your poor decision on the final INT before throwing the game plan (coaches) under the bus.
Looked like Paulsen slowed down for some reason on that route, also looked like Griffin expected him to turn up field. Probably a miscommunication of some sort rather than a simple overthrow.
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Looked like Paulsen slowed down for some reason on that route, also looked like Griffin expected him to turn up field. Probably a miscommunication of some sort rather than a simple overthrow.
Still, the point is that the play design created an open receiver but the player's execution of it failed.

Last year, and independent of the read option, it seemed like KS was able to create open receivers through scheme. I just haven't seen that this year. When it has happened, players have very often simply failed to execute. To me, KS is simply not being as innovative as he has in the past (again, independent of the R/O, KS's schemes have historically created offense for players).

Additionally, when the schemes succeed, like having TE running free in space, the players have not taken advantage of what the scheme offered. Several players - not just RGIII - seem to have really regressed this year.

To me, our record is truly a team effort and that is deeply unsettling.
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Still, the point is that the play design created an open receiver but the player's execution of it failed.

Last year, and independent of the read option, it seemed like KS was able to create open receivers through scheme. I just haven't seen that this year. When it has happened, players have very often simply failed to execute. To me, KS is simply not being as innovative as he has in the past (again, independent of the R/O, KS's schemes have historically created offense for players).

Additionally, when the schemes succeed, like having TE running free in space, the players have not taken advantage of what the scheme offered. Several players - not just RGIII - seem to have really regressed this year.

To me, our record is truly a team effort and that is deeply unsettling.

What puzzles me is the running game is so darn good. We should be dictating points on the board. No one can stop our running game. We should be winning with a running game like that.
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