Do You Unequivocally Believe RG3 Is Our Franchise QB?

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Too early to call the reigning rookie of the year a bust eh?

I had a friend ask me after the game if I thought RG3 had peaked. I'm currently reconsidering if he's smart enough for me to remain friends with him.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Too early to call the reigning rookie of the year a bust eh?

It's too early. But Vince Yong won ROY too. lol.....I'm just sayin'

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

It's too early. But Vince Yong won ROY too. lol.....I'm just sayin'

It's reasonable to have some concerns about his long term potential. It's unreasonable to interpret that as "giving up on him".

[GusFrerotte]

No he is not, and I have said this in other threads. By the time you build a decent offensive line and give the guy some actual decent receivers, he is going to bolt period. Odds are that he is going to ask for more money and I am not sure we should give it to him. This is the team sport of team sports and RG III is useless if the guys around him are total puds. Also let's face another possibility, just like Spurrier destroyed Ramsey, maybe Shanny might have destroyed RG III. The next HC might say away with you and go with Cousins or draft his own guy. If Robert can bounce back like Cam did after his sophomore slump then this is all moot, but if the team continues to stink, he needs to be cut loose.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

I would trade him for a pair of second round picks and feel I got a bargain

[punch it in]

I would take back the trade rite now if given the chance. Maybe Griff will still be great, and worth the picks. But if given the opportunity rite now id take back the trade. I dont blame Shanny for it though either way. I was 100 percent for it at the time.

[Brody81]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

I think it is sort of too early to call Griffin a bust....I think what we are seeing around the league is that QB's like RG3, Kaepernick, appear to be a one year wonder. Kaepernick is struggling this year. They all deserve to have another year..

But if RG3 gets worse next year - i wouldn't call him a bust. He could be just an average QB, that could do well if we build an entire team....

2 first round picks for an average QB= bust!!


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[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by Brody81

2 first round picks for an average QB= bust!!


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If you have no OL to protect you, then you will look bad. RGIII needs to learn to play the pocket if he wants to last in this league,he will.

[diehardskin2982]

Give the kid an offensive line. the line is straight trash. He will be shell shocked because of constant pressure in his face.

[Green Monk Machine]

Josh Wilson is the worst. I defended him in summer b/c we didnt hae anyone proven but damn he is garbage.
Kyle needs to blow his brains out and spare us from his stupidity. Just like the bears game, How the f* does he call 7 WR screens? Why why why
Why do we have pass plays behind the line of scrimmage?
Why have WR's in backfield ever?
Why has Robert been a RB QB and WR under Kyle?
Why has Mike never beaten Kyle as a child?
Why has he not got angry with Kyle during games?

I don't pull the Snyder card out but break the glass for this emergency...
Clean the mother fucking house out Snyder. Clean house.
Why can't we no huddle ?
Why do we have Robert still in games in 3rd qtr with only 89 pass yds?
Why can't Kirk go in and play QB? At least he will throw the ball accurately.


Fuck mike and Kyle shanahan so much I can't even boil blood and hatred towards Jim and burns.
I have to calm down to deal with those 2 f'ups b/c daddy and son are never supposed to be in control of team and offense.
Unreal. Each week is another chapter in the horror story that is reality but only dumb enough to happen to the redskins.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by Green Monk Machine

Josh Wilson is the worst. I defended him in summer b/c we didnt hae anyone proven but damn he is garbage.
Kyle needs to blow his brains out and spare us from his stupidity. Just like the bears game, How the f* does he call 7 WR screens? Why why why
Why do we have pass plays behind the line of scrimmage?
Why have WR's in backfield ever?
Why has Robert been a RB QB and WR under Kyle?
Why has Mike never beaten Kyle as a child?
Why has he not got angry with Kyle during games?

I don't pull the Snyder card out but break the glass for this emergency...
Clean the mother fucking house out Snyder. Clean house.
Why can't we no huddle ?
Why do we have Robert still in games in 3rd qtr with only 89 pass yds?
Why can't Kirk go in and play QB? At least he will throw the ball accurately.


Fuck mike and Kyle shanahan so much I can't even boil blood and hatred towards Jim and burns.
I have to calm down to deal with those 2 f'ups b/c daddy and son are never supposed to be in control of team and offense.
Unreal. Each week is another chapter in the horror story that is reality but only dumb enough to happen to the redskins.

When you're under a heavy pass rush, you get the ball out of the QB's hands as quickly as possible. That's why they ran so many WR screens. With this O-line, get used to that.

At this point, they're in developmental time with RGIII. If you pull him, you're only hurting his chances to learn.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

When you're under a heavy pass rush, you get the ball out of the QB's hands as quickly as possible. That's why they ran so many WR screens. With this O-line, get used to that.

At this point, they're in developmental time with RGIII. If you pull him, you're only hurting his chances to learn.

There are several questions I have with regards to pulling him.

1. What is the psychological cost? Especially for what we have invested.
2. If o-line play is part of the problem are we going to have two young shell-shocked QBs on the roster if Cousins starts?
3. Why now? Are we hoping to improve this season or are we trying to improve for next year?

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

There are several questions I have with regards to pulling him.

1. What is the psychological cost? Especially for what we have invested.
2. If o-line play is part of the problem are we going to have two young shell-shocked QBs on the roster if Cousins starts?
3. Why now? Are we hoping to improve this season or are we trying to improve for next year?

1. RG3 is a baller. I think he'd come out next year with something to prove. He doesn't seem like the mentally, "cracks under pressure" type. In regards to his on the field play, eh. He definitely tries to be a 1-man team under pressure. That's red flags all over to me, not about him, but about the fact I feel like he has zero confidence in his teammates to help him out.

2. I think playing KC the last 2-3 games of the season shouldn't leave him shell-shocked. I think if anything it reinforces the fact that our o-line stinks and the problem lies more with them and less on our QB. If KC were to come out and deliver, then you can lay less blame on the o-line and more on the QB. But I'm pretty sure the O-line is a big part of the problem.

3. Its the end of the season, might as well screw around with things. What we were doing the first 11 games weren't working, sooooo... yeahhhh...

[Brody81]

It time for Cousins. Let's see if it's the offense or if RG3 just really sucks.


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[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by Brody81

It time for Cousins. Let's see if it's the offense or if RG3 just really sucks.


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I really feel that you will never see Cousins ever again in a redskins uniform. If Cousins comes in and plays well, and the team wins, there is an instant QB controversy. Shanahan doesn't want any of it. My gut says if he is still here next year that he trades cousins away...