Skins Vs 9ers Pre game thread

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Rich Gannon? Brad Johnson? Gruden may be a little bit of a attention whore, but the guy knows his stuff. Hell he even got to the playoffs with Chris Simms.

He got to the playoffs with one of the best defenses in NFL history and a power running game. I suggest you look at the stats of Brad Johnson during his tenure at Tampa Bay and tell me if you think those are any reflection of a good QB. If you think so, I surely don't want any QB you consider as good.

I'll give you Rich Gannon because he did make all-pro one of the years in Oakland. That said, I think it says a lot that Bill Callahan took the very same team that Gruden coached and got them to the Super Bowl. Footnote: Gannon made MVP under Callihan. So was it the OC that whole time or Gruden?

it's easy to be a good coach when you got a stacked team, which is exactly what Gruden worked with in both locations. Also, who picked those players? We know good and damn well Al made the selections in Oakland and he inherited a stacked team in Tampa. We all saw what happened when McKay left for Atlanta and Chucky and Bruce were making the personnel calls.

That said, he's NOT the answer here. Not even close by a long shot. Also to note, Gruden has never been a QB coach during his coaching career. (unless I've overlooked something) He was mostly a WR coach early on.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

He got to the playoffs with one of the best defenses in NFL history and a power running game. I suggest you look at the stats of Brad Johnson during his tenure at Tampa Bay and tell me if you think those are any reflection of a good QB. If you think so, I surely don't want any QB you consider as good.

I'll give you Rich Gannon because he did make all-pro one of the years in Oakland. That said, I think it says a lot that Bill Callahan took the very same team that Gruden coached and got them to the Super Bowl.

it's easy to be a good coach when you got a stacked team, which is exactly what Gruden worked with in both locations. Also, who picked those players? We know good and damn well Al made the selections in Oakland and he inherited a stacked team in Tampa. We all saw what happened when McKay left for Atlanta and Chucky and Bruce were making the personnel calls.

That said, he's NOT the answer here. Not even close by a long shot.

Brad Johnson, QB at NFL.com

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

Brad Johnson, QB at NFL.com

SO one decent year in Tampa?

[Gary84Clark]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

He got to the playoffs with one of the best defenses in NFL history and a power running game. I suggest you look at the stats of Brad Johnson during his tenure at Tampa Bay and tell me if you think those are any reflection of a good QB. If you think so, I surely don't want any QB you consider as good.

I'll give you Rich Gannon because he did make all-pro one of the years in Oakland. That said, I think it says a lot that Bill Callahan took the very same team that Gruden coached and got them to the Super Bowl.

it's easy to be a good coach when you got a stacked team, which is exactly what Gruden worked with in both locations. Also, who picked those players? We know good and damn well Al made the selections in Oakland and he inherited a stacked team in Tampa. We all saw what happened when McKay left for Atlanta and Chucky and Bruce were making the personnel calls.

That said, he's NOT the answer here. Not even close by a long shot.

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