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Old 12-02-2013, 03:38 PM   #1
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He doesn't like Josh Freeman

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Old 12-02-2013, 03:48 PM   #2
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Yes, he'll take us to the Super Bowl, with Kirk Cousins!




How can you tell? He loves EVERY man who plays the position of Quarterback.
I think a lot of people want RG3 to be our QB, regardless of how he plays. Who cares if it's RG3 or Cousins? We should all want the best guy out there, regardless of ego, draft status, money...and that goes for ALL positions. I'd love for Gruden to come in here and say..." all jobs are up for grabs, whoever performs, plays"...kind of what Chip Kelly did.

It's obvious Gruden likes both guys. But... if he's hired, RG3 will not have the long leash that the Shanahans have given him.
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Old 12-03-2013, 05:16 PM   #3
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He didn't take Oakland to the SB but that was his team. That was his offense. He made Rich Gannon into a star. Made Brad Johnson into a SB QB. If I'm Dan Snyder, Jon Gruden is the first person that I'm getting on the phone. I think he's just what this team needs.
I apologize folks, I stand corrected. BUT...... If he can take the Raiders from last place in the AFC division to lead it 3 yrs in a row and post a 12-4 season? I'll take that everytime.

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Under Gruden, the Raiders posted consecutive 8–8 seasons in 1998 and 1999, and leapt out of last place in the AFC West. After uniting with journeyman quarterback Rich Gannon, Gruden led the Raiders to the top of the AFC West and made the playoffs three straight seasons (the third time under Head Coach Bill Callahan). Oakland finished 12–4 in the 2000 season, the team's most successful in a decade, and its first division title since 1990, ultimately reaching the AFC Championship, where they lost 16–3 to the eventual Super Bowl champion Baltimore Ravens. While Gruden was with the Raiders, Gruden acquired his nickname "Chucky" from Raiders defensive lineman Grady Jackson, who thought that the coach looked like the fictional character "Chucky" in the 1988 movie Child's Play.
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I apologize folks, I stand corrected. BUT...... If he can take the Raiders from last place in the AFC division to lead it 3 yrs in a row and post a 12-4 season? I'll take that everytime.

Me too, Gruden was great in Oakland, and went on to bring that same energy in Tampa that Tony D was lacking, that is what we need is ENERGY from our staff
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Old 12-02-2013, 02:54 PM   #5
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Jon and Jay did work together in Tampa, so I don't think it's a big deal.
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Gruden has always been fairly progressive in his offensive mentality as the years go on, but if he's going to be successful in his third stint as a coach, he's going to have to be more comfortable marrying himself to a single qb.

Shanahan had a reputation for being offensively progressive, but I feel like the offense he ran was unique for his time, but also rare in that people around the league didn't try to copy it. Because of that, defenses never really worked hard on stopping a misdirection based offense. Once that changed within the last eight years, I think it became clear that this scheme isn't that progressive, and modern defenses simply aren't as confused by it as they once were. Once teams learned how to blitz into bootlegs to force a throw, that offense got pretty straightforward quickly.
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I'd even take Al Saunders back, anything but this crap we're running now. Kyle calls plays to get 4-8 yards at a time.
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As of right now, I know the Redskins would be very interested in Gruden if they decide to make a change. And the feeling appears to be mutual
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As of right now, I know the Redskins would be very interested in Gruden if they decide to make a change. And the feeling appears to be mutual

Gruden and Allen are close and Gruden loves RG3
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As of right now, I know the Redskins would be very interested in Gruden if they decide to make a change. And the feeling appears to be mutual
Ah geez, say it ain't so Smoot!
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So just to be clear we are potentially going from a coach that was out of football for one year to another that will haven been out five years... This doesn't compute.
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So just to be clear we are potentially going from a coach that was out of football for one year to another that will haven been out five years... This doesn't compute.
We brought back Joe Gibbs, who retired, was inducted into the HOF and was a NASCAR owner...and he took us back to the playoffs without a QB.

Gruden's break is nothing to worry about.



Hey...the initials J.G....

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So just to be clear we are potentially going from a coach that was out of football for one year to another that will haven been out five years... This doesn't compute.
Gruden is involved with the NFL everyday
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So just to be clear we are potentially going from a coach that was out of football for one year to another that will haven been out five years... This doesn't compute.
How long was Dick Vermiel out before returning and leading the Rams to a Super Bowl with a grocery bagger as his QB? 15 years? I want a teacher and a leader of men running the show. The jury is still out whether the Shanahans have been solid teachers relative to developing Griffin. Viewing from the outside, it would appear that an offense was modified to Griffin's unique skills, perhaps at the expense of progressing Griffin in the passing game. I want to see far more WCO concepts, where the ball is out of the QB's hand on rhythm, instead of being so dependent on play action passing behind our train-wreck of a pass protection O-line.
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