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Old 12-04-2013, 04:05 PM   #1
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Griffin's lack of development been exposed because the Redskins are throwing a lot more.

The Redskins are throwing a lot more because they've been trailing the whole season.

They've been trailing the whole season because they lack quality players and entire quality units, and also can't hold leads that Griffin does get them.

They lack quality players in some part because of the Griffin trade -- but also because they can't identify them.

There is a single, central problem with this team from which all the losing stems from.
36 mill will do that. I think for any coach thinking about coming here, looking at our cap situation and the our starting QB, should make this job highly attractive. Thats really an unspoken positive, our contract situations with personel is outstanding.

Another attractive thing is the way of course Snyder throws money at coaching staffs...Shanny is a 7 mil per year coach?thats crazy to me.
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36 mill will do that. I think for any coach thinking about coming here, looking at our cap situation and the our starting QB, should make this job highly attractive. Thats really an unspoken positive, our contract situations with personel is outstanding.

Another attractive thing is the way of course Snyder throws money at coaching staffs...Shanny is a 7 mil per year coach?thats crazy to me.
What's our most expensive/onerous contract that we have? Garcon maybe? I can't think of anyone on the roster (who is sure to be here next year) that has a unwieldly contract like we've had in the past.
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What's our most expensive/onerous contract that we have? Garcon maybe? I can't think of anyone on the roster (who is sure to be here next year) that has a unwieldly contract like we've had in the past.
off the top, silverback, garcon, and Bowen stick out as big contracts

Garcon and Silverback, nice contributors. Bowen is meh in his performance.
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off the top, silverback, garcon, and Bowen stick out as big contracts

Garcon and Silverback, nice contributors. Bowen is meh in his performance.
Coming off of two average years production wise and microfracture surgery, I don't see Bowen back next year. Cofield makes big coin as well now that I think of it. He may restructure but he's a keeper, regardless of scheme.
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off the top, silverback, garcon, and Bowen stick out as big contracts

Garcon and Silverback, nice contributors. Bowen is meh in his performance.
Compared to what Mike Wallace got and the production factor thrown in I would say we got Garcon on a bargain compared to that. Silverback was a rookie and that is when they were still overpaying rookies, Bowen is an average player to me. We signed him to a 25 million dollar deal over 5 years if I remember correctly, but we will be fine as far as cap goes. This off season I really wanna see a rebuild on the defensive side.
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What's our most expensive/onerous contract that we have? Garcon maybe? I can't think of anyone on the roster (who is sure to be here next year) that has a unwieldly contract like we've had in the past.
There's going to be a considerable amount of deadcap in 2014 from the Morgan, Fletcher, and Meriweather contracts. But that's not a long term issue, it's a one time deferred cap hit. And the only actual effect of the cap penalty on the long term health of the organization.

The issue isn't the deadcap, it's that those contracts didn't make the team any better.

Garcon and Cofield have bulky contracts, but they're both going to make the team next season. Bowen (I'm guessing) will not, because he's getting knee surgery and they can save a lot of cap by cutting him. The Garcon contract is going to look bad in hindsight, but I think that if they move on from Bowen after the season and Cofield a year from now, you could say that those contracts were cap dollars well spent.
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There's going to be a considerable amount of deadcap in 2014 from the Morgan, Fletcher, and Meriweather contracts. But that's not a long term issue, it's a one time deferred cap hit. And the only actual effect of the cap penalty on the long term health of the organization.

The issue isn't the deadcap, it's that those contracts didn't make the team any better.

Garcon and Cofield have bulky contracts, but they're both going to make the team next season. Bowen (I'm guessing) will not, because he's getting knee surgery and they can save a lot of cap by cutting him. The Garcon contract is going to look bad in hindsight, but I think that if they move on from Bowen after the season and Cofield a year from now, you could say that those contracts were cap dollars well spent.
Looks like Garcon could lead the league in receptions this year, not too shabby.
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$110 million is plenty if you can identify good football players. And if you can't, an extra $16 million isn't going to make it any easier.
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$110 million is plenty if you can identify good football players. And if you can't, an extra $16 million isn't going to make it any easier.
It would help. Thats why you cant be stupid and sign an Albert Haynesworth. I think in the end could be a blessing, someone gonna come in here with an excellent situation, with alot of young guys not locked up and more important alot of old vet not locked up AND with 18 mil clear on the books. Oh and a franchise QB.
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London Fletcher and Josh Morgan both bring huge savings to the skins if we part ways. I believe those two alone account for roughly 10Mil in cap space.

Carrikier and Chester would save 3M a piece if cut. Montomery would save 2M in space if cut.

Credit to Cpayne5 for these numbers. We discussed it previously and I decided to steal his hard work!
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More cap room gives you more room for error, just like having more picks. I find it hard to believe we couldn't have improved on the likes of Polumbus or landed a decent safety with that extra room. Maybe another WR too.
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More cap room gives you more room for error, just like having more picks. I find it hard to believe we couldn't have improved on the likes of Polumbus or landed a decent safety with that extra room. Maybe another WR too.
Problem with that is when you look at last year's free agents, not really anyone that would have improved the team. Plus it isn't guaranteed that they would have transferred over based on scheme and coaching styles.

Remember Polumbus was a free agent once as well.
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More cap room gives you more room for error, just like having more picks. I find it hard to believe we couldn't have improved on the likes of Polumbus or landed a decent safety with that extra room. Maybe another WR too.
Could have done all that with the guys in camp in preseason too. Coaches chose to go with this group.

The safety situation seemed sloppier than the other position groups. I don't know for sure that this was their plan A, but I'm not sure who was available in August that they could have gone to get if only they had more cap dollars.
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Could have done all that with the guys in camp in preseason too. Coaches chose to go with this group.

The safety situation seemed sloppier than the other position groups. I don't know for sure that this was their plan A, but I'm not sure who was available in August that they could have gone to get if only they had more cap dollars.
Point is they could have had a better group to begin with in camp if they had an extra $18M. Same for the year before. The fact they brought in a bunch of warm bodies at RT to "compete" with Polumbus tells us how sad of a story it was.
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Point is they could have had a better group to begin with in camp if they had an extra $18M. Same for the year before. The fact they brought in a bunch of warm bodies at RT to "compete" with Polumbus tells us how sad of a story it was.
Pashos in particular obviously outplayed Polumbus in the preseason. I think they really wanted to keep that group of five OL together because they anticipated it would get better (and that they could promote from within). It's gone the other direction.

The OL hasn't struggled from a lack of spending. They're spending $3, $4, and $5 million a year on their IOL starters and every member of the OL except Polumbus has made every start since Week 1 of last year. I don't know if the OL next year will be any better, but I'm pretty certain they'll spend less than this year.
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