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Old 12-02-2013, 10:04 AM   #1
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I put about 70% of it on the Head Linesman and 20% on Triplette, and 10% on the umpire and Line judge. I ref semi-pro and we use NFL rules and mechanics.

The head linesman has no business telling the chain crew to move until the ref gives a first down signal, unless it is so obvious that Helen Keller could see it was a first down. After the chains had moved, and the box change to 1, you see Triplette trying to get the HL's attention and yelling 3rd down. When it wasn't fixed, he should have stopped the game to reset the chains and box.

The umpire and line judge seeing it was close, should have yelled to Triplette to come take a closer look and possibly measure. With the game on the line it is customary to give a measurement as a courtesy.

I know 2 nfl officials (not all that well, have met and talked to them at clinics). They have explained how they are graded and the implications. The entire crew will get hammered for this, they won't get fired, but I seriously doubt they come anywhere close to a play-off game.
Great stuff and perspective. Thanks
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Old 12-01-2013, 11:45 PM   #2
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There is a major possibility that the Rams may obtain the first pick of the 2014 draft, think about that!
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Old 12-01-2013, 11:45 PM   #3
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My ideal lineup for next year.

WR - Garcon
LT - T. Williams
LG - New Starter
C - New Starter
RG - DEFINITELY New Starter
RT - DEFINITELY New Starter
TE - Reed
WR - New Starter
QB - RGIII
FB - Young
RB - Alfmo

CB - Hall
OLB - Orakpo
MLB - New Starter
MLB - Riley
OLB - Kerrigan
LE - Bowen
NT - Cofield
RE - Jenkins
SS - Rambo
FS - Thomas
CB - DEFINITELY New Starter

I know its probably not even possible to acquire that many positions but it would be ideal. Would have to hit right on all the draft picks/signings.
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Old 12-01-2013, 11:55 PM   #4
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My ideal lineup for next year.

WR - Garcon
LT - T. Williams
LG - New Starter
C - New Starter
RG - DEFINITELY New Starter
RT - DEFINITELY New Starter
TE - Reed
WR - New Starter
QB - RGIII
FB - Young
RB - Alfmo

CB - Hall
OLB - Orakpo
MLB - New Starter
MLB - Riley
OLB - Kerrigan
LE - Bowen
NT - Cofield
RE - Jenkins

SS - Rambo
FS - Thomas
CB - DEFINITELY New Starter

I know its probably not even possible to acquire that many positions but it would be ideal. Would have to hit right on all the draft picks/signings.
The front 7 needs a lot more work then that. They can stop the run with some consistently but they can never beat one on one blocking. Orakpo has come up big recently but I wouldn't depend on him to be a consistent presence. If they are going to stay in a 3-4 they need a DE like Carriker that could get pressure from the interior. Kerrigan has completely disappeared so I think they need to add more depth at the pass rushing spot.
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Old 12-01-2013, 11:58 PM   #5
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The front 7 needs a lot more work then that. They can stop the run with some consistently but they can never beat one on one blocking. Orakpo has come up big recently but I wouldn't depend on him to be a consistent presence. If they are going to stay in a 3-4 they need a DE like Carriker that could get pressure from the interior. Kerrigan has completely disappeared so I think they need to add more depth at the pass rushing spot.
I agree, but those 7 positions I left open would be my priority, then of course you always need to add depth, etc.
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Old 12-01-2013, 11:48 PM   #6
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If the season ended today(I wish it would) we have given the Rams a top 3 pick. Well, at least, we'll have a high second rounder.

I see Shannys staying with an impending FA spending spree. Haz is gone though. We all know how the FA spending spree goes.
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If the season ended today(I wish it would) we have given the Rams a top 3 pick. Well, at least, we'll have a high second rounder.

I see Shannys staying with an impending FA spending spree. Haz is gone though. We all know how the FA spending spree goes.
Excuses and alibi's why shanahan was unable to win. Any coach can come in here and win more than him. And 99% chance that coach doesn't have a son.

I'm so sick of the skins misfortune.
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Old 12-02-2013, 12:03 AM   #8
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Excuses and alibi's why shanahan was unable to win. Any coach can come in here and win more than him. And 99% chance that coach doesn't have a son.

I'm so sick of the skins misfortune.
Really? Any coach can come and win with the sorry as players we have? What a moronic thing to say.

People need to get over the boner inducing hate on our coaches. They are not blameless, but if players can't make simple plays, not even Lombardi makes them win.

We need better players period. If we had AVERAGE offensive linemen, ILBs, and secondary receivers, we'd have a better record.

One thing is to take young unproven players and make them play well (see Indy last year). But another is having mediocre players that can't block, catch, or tackle.
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Old 12-02-2013, 12:08 AM   #9
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Really? Any coach can come and win with the sorry as players we have? What a moronic thing to say.

People need to get over the boner inducing hate on our coaches. They are not blameless, but if players can't make simple plays, not even Lombardi makes them win.

We need better players period. If we had AVERAGE offensive linemen, ILBs, and secondary receivers, we'd have a better record.

One thing is to take young unproven players and make them play well (see Indy last year). But another is having mediocre players that can't block, catch, or tackle.
He has had four years to try to get better players... When the offense, defense, and special teams all suck after 4 years, who should be held accountable? The players that the coach selected, developed and put in position to fail or should all the blame go to the players even though the coaches failed them?
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He has had four years to try to get better players... When the offense, defense, and special teams all suck after 4 years, who should be held accountable? The players that the coach selected, developed and put in position to fail or should all the blame go to the players even though the coaches failed them?
Who said anything about all the blame?
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Old 12-02-2013, 01:09 AM   #11
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He has had four years to try to get better players... When the offense, defense, and special teams all suck after 4 years, who should be held accountable? The players that the coach selected, developed and put in position to fail or should all the blame go to the players even though the coaches failed them?
So you can't read the part that I said the coaches are not blameless?
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Old 12-02-2013, 12:29 AM   #12
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Really? Any coach can come and win with the sorry as players we have? What a moronic thing to say.

People need to get over the boner inducing hate on our coaches. They are not blameless, but if players can't make simple plays, not even Lombardi makes them win.

We need better players period. If we had AVERAGE offensive linemen, ILBs, and secondary receivers, we'd have a better record.

One thing is to take young unproven players and make them play well (see Indy last year). But another is having mediocre players that can't block, catch, or tackle.
Thats not moronic to say at all. Robert can thrive in any system. Alfred can run in any system. It's these dick fuck Shanahans that could end his career before it gets off the ground.
Yes. Any coach could do a better job than Kyle, b/c Kyle is a one of kind fucking 'tard to have his QB managed the way he does. Kyle leads te league in WR's in the backfield. Robert can be a QB if only Kyle were 86'd.
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Thats not moronic to say at all. Robert can thrive in any system. Alfred can run in any system. It's these dick fuck Shanahans that could end his career before it gets off the ground.
Yes. Any coach could do a better job than Kyle, b/c Kyle is a one of kind fucking 'tard to have his QB managed the way he does. Kyle leads te league in WR's in the backfield. Robert can be a QB if only Kyle were 86'd.
So you think that a new coach is going to make our guards and center block better, improve our ILBS and make our veteran WRs catch the ball? That's just laughable.

As I said before the coaches are not blameless and share the responsibility for this mess up. But people act like a new coach is going to make up for all the mediocrity we have.

Hell, with an average line and back up receivers, this would be a better team.
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Really? Any coach can come and win with the sorry as players we have? What a moronic thing to say.

People need to get over the boner inducing hate on our coaches. They are not blameless, but if players can't make simple plays, not even Lombardi makes them win.

We need better players period. If we had AVERAGE offensive linemen, ILBs, and secondary receivers, we'd have a better record.

One thing is to take young unproven players and make them play well (see Indy last year). But another is having mediocre players that can't block, catch, or tackle.
You are wasting your time. Some people can't see the forest for the trees and they have to use vulgar trolling to make a point.
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Old 12-01-2013, 11:54 PM   #15
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Blame all around. Anyone who wants to blame it only one group is pretty much a moron
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