Do You Unequivocally Believe RG3 Is Our Franchise QB?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Green Monk Machine

The comment about the RO being a thing we do sparingly- Yeah I'm not hearing that whatsoever Matty. That is the bread and butter behind this offense. Perhaps the only reason we haven't used it more is anyones guess either b/c we are losing, or Kyle is a shit play caller to bring that into every game. I think Kyle's play calling can be agreed and is common ground, yes?

I don't understand the rational to say something that is used a certain % of times of game isn't our offense. What would it take for you to say it was- 90-100% RO plays? No team, not even in college does that. Such a position does not impress me.

Even last year we ran a true read option play about 8 times per game. Hardly bread and butter. But go ahead and believe what you want. Maybe you're confusing it with the pistol formation? And a lot of the plays that look like read option are just dummy calls with RG not actually making the read, it's a predetermined handoff instead.

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If we run goal line a few times a game, nobody is calling it a goal line offense. So why say something is our offense when it's not being run but a handful of times a game? There are definitely teams in college that run it a heck of a lot more often and you could say that's their offense.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Even last year we ran a true read option play about 8 times per game. Hardly bread and butter. But go ahead and believe what you want. Maybe you're confusing it with the pistol formation? And a lot of the plays that look like read option are just dummy calls with RG not actually making the read, it's a predetermined handoff instead.

The Read-Option As We Knew It Is Dead. Long Live the Read-Option | The MMQB with Peter King

The Fact-Based Truth About The Redskins' 2012 Offense

If we run goal line a few times a game, nobody is calling it a goal line offense. So why say something is our offense when it's not being run but a handful of times a game? There are definitely teams in college that run it a heck of a lot more often and you could say that's their offense.

Two things. I think what GMM probably means, and many of us agree with, is our offense a) doesn't offer a lot of variety beyond two man routes, a few stretch run plays and the RO b) doesn't seem to work at all unless the RO is working.
The other thing is it all adds up to a running QB, and nobody outside this board seems to think that's good.

So it all boils down to why isn't the offense progressing?? RG's injury/recovery, lack of talent, coaching?? Thing is one guy is ultimately responsible for all those answers. He's also ultimately responsible for a terrible defense, special teams and win record the last four years.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Two things. I think what GMM probably means, and many of us agree with, is our offense a) doesn't offer a lot of variety beyond two man routes, a few stretch run plays and the RO b) doesn't seem to work at all unless the RO is working.

The offense seemed to work just fine without the read option when Kirk Cousins started. So I don't buy into that theory at all. The Read option is merely just another wrinkle into the offense, designed to work toward RGIII's strengths. I still maintain that the plan is to work RGIII into more drop back passing and to slowly scale back the read option in future years, which makes a lot of sense. We would have seen more evidence of this if Griffin had a full offseason.

Originally Posted by The Goat

The other thing is it all adds up to a running QB, and nobody outside this board seems to think that's good.

Well if people outside of this board think having a quarterback who's a running threat is a bad thing, then they are in serious need of a beating. I don't believe for one second anybody who knows anything about football thinks its bad for their quarterback to be a threat with their legs. I think what people are saying is that if the quarterback is not an accurate passer and his only strength is running, then yes, that's not going to get it done. But as I have witness last season and times this season, RGIII has the ability to be a very accurate passer. Anybody who disagrees with that is obviously deaf, dumb, and blind.

Originally Posted by The Goat

So it all boils down to why isn't the offense progressing?? RG's injury/recovery, lack of talent, coaching?? Thing is one guy is ultimately responsible for all those answers. He's also ultimately responsible for a terrible defense, special teams and win record the last four years.

We get it. You hate Mike Shanahan. Whatever. I would just about bet all I have that anybody else who is in Mike Shanahan's shoes and have to be up against the same things Shanny has had to be up against (Griffin's injury, the cap penalties, etc...) would probably have similar results. The only thing I can agree is that the defense is horrible.