Do You Unequivocally Believe RG3 Is Our Franchise QB?

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by budw38

We also gave up a # 1 , 2 & 4 for JC and a #2 and #6 for Rocky M. ..... Thank god Vinny is gone . And the 3 #2's for the three amigo's

I got drilled for it then and will probably get drilled for it now but 10 of those draft picks (Portis, Brunell, Duckett, Lloyd, Campbell, McIntosh trades) were all courtesy of Joe Gibbs 2.0. I said it then and I'll say it now, his stint set this franchise back 6-8 yrs. Vinny isn't without blame but Gibbs was making the key decisions.

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

I got drilled for it then and will probably get drilled for it now but 10 of those draft picks (Portis, Brunell, Duckett, Lloyd, Campbell, McIntosh trades) were all courtesy of Joe Gibbs 2.0. I said it then and I'll say it now, his stint set this franchise back 6-8 yrs. Vinny isn't without blame but Gibbs was making the key decisions.

Gibbs' draft and trade record was hit and miss. Kind of like his "losing season - playoff" routine twice during Gibbs 2.0. Compared to the dumpster fires of Snyder/Spurrier, and Cerrato/Zorn, Gibbs 2.0 didn't set back the Skins at all. If anything, Gibbs was a wonderful reprieve from the general suckitude of the Snyder ownership.

We made the playoffs twice with Gibbs 2.0, and went 8-8 with Cerrato and Zorn inheriting the team in 2008. Gibbs' stint set back nothing, except the aforementioned suckitude.

[SouperMeister]

Originally Posted by HailGreen28

Gibbs' draft and trade record was hit and miss. Kind of like his "losing season - playoff" routine twice during Gibbs 2.0. Compared to the dumpster fires of Snyder/Spurrier, and Cerrato/Zorn, Gibbs 2.0 didn't set back the Skins at all. If anything, Gibbs was a wonderful reprieve from the general suckitude of the Snyder ownership.

We made the playoffs twice with Gibbs 2.0, and went 8-8 with Cerrato and Zorn inheriting the team in 2008. Gibbs' stint set back nothing, except the aforementioned suckitude.

I agree with Paintrain that Gibbs deserves some blame for trading draft picks away left and right. He had the final say on such matters. It seems that it doesn't matter who the coach is. The culture here is not conducive to building a winner. That starts at the top.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by SouperMeister

I agree with Paintrain that Gibbs deserves some blame for trading draft picks away left and right. He had the final say on such matters. It seems that it doesn't matter who the coach is. The culture here is not conducive to building a winner. That starts at the top.

Wasn't the TJ Duckett trade under Gibbs' watch?

[SouperMeister]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Wasn't the TJ Duckett trade under Gibbs' watch?

Yep, Gibbs had final say on that. That's why fans need to pull their heads our of the sand when it comes to Gibbs. He deserves much blame for not leveraging the draft like consistent winning teams do today.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SouperMeister

Yep, Gibbs had final say on that. That's why fans need to pull their heads our of the sand when it comes to Gibbs. He deserves much blame for not leveraging the draft like consistent winning teams do today.

You have got to be kidding me. Gibbs left after 2007.....6 years ago.

[budw38]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

I got drilled for it then and will probably get drilled for it now but 10 of those draft picks (Portis, Brunell, Duckett, Lloyd, Campbell, McIntosh trades) were all courtesy of Joe Gibbs 2.0. I said it then and I'll say it now, his stint set this franchise back 6-8 yrs. Vinny isn't without blame but Gibbs was making the key decisions.

No question , coach got the players he wanted . Gibbs = HOF Coach , not sure he would have made at as a GM .

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

I got drilled for it then and will probably get drilled for it now but 10 of those draft picks (Portis, Brunell, Duckett, Lloyd, Campbell, McIntosh trades) were all courtesy of Joe Gibbs 2.0. I said it then and I'll say it now, his stint set this franchise back 6-8 yrs. Vinny isn't without blame but Gibbs was making the key decisions.

So you're saying those moves are hurting us now?? The RG3 trade is hurting us more than those moves are.