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Originally Posted by skinsfan0201

Former Redskins quarterbacks that were not given an adequate chance..... How long have you been a fan? To be starters that is.....

Well I liked, still like, Trent Green and wish we could have kept him. But, I'm sure you'll recall that he was a free agent during the time the franchise was transitioning ownership from the Cooke family to Howard Millstein. Then that fell through and Dan Snyder bought the team. But with all the uncertainty about who the owner would be and not knowing what the financial situation would be, Green had no choice but to leave. I think he would have been more likely to stay if there was some ownership in place while he was on the free agent market.

Gannon was an average QB for over a decade in this league. Good for him that he was able spend the last years of his career on a high note. But he only played half a season here (the Petitbon year), his sixth I believe in the NFL, and had given no indication before hand he would be anything special and didn't for several years after that.

In fact in those 8 games he played with the Skins he had 704 yards passing (5.6 ypa), with 3 TDs and 7 INTs. Last year in 9 games Brunell had 1194 yards passing (5.0 ypa) with 7 TDs and 6 INTs. If you're going to say we should have given Gannon a chance you might as well say the same for Brunell.

Been a fan since '82

[STPainmaker]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

Well I liked, still like, Trent Green and wish we could have kept him. But, I'm sure you'll recall that he was a free agent during the time the franchise was transitioning ownership from the Cooke family to Howard Millstein. Then that fell through and Dan Snyder bought the team. But with all the uncertainty about who the owner would be and not knowing what the financial situation would be, Green had no choice but to leave. I think he would have been more likely to stay if there was some ownership in place while he was on the free agent market.

Gannon was an average QB for over a decade in this league. Good for him that he was able spend the last years of his career on a high note. But he only played half a season here (the Petitbon year), his sixth I believe in the NFL, and had given no indication before hand he would be anything special and didn't for several years after that.

In fact in those 8 games he played with the Skins he had 704 yards passing (5.6 ypa), with 3 TDs and 7 INTs. Last year in 9 games Brunell had 1194 yards passing (5.0 ypa) with 7 TDs and 6 INTs. If you're going to say we should have given Gannon a chance you might as well say the same for Brunell.

Been a fan since '82

Great post.

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Let me also add that Gannon didn't even play in the league at all in 1994, that's how little he was thought of league-wide

[skinsfan0201]

Originally Posted by STPainmaker

Great post.

Gannon, at the very least was still in the early part of his career, and with the possibility of greatness, while Brunell is essentially supposed to be the teacher of the tricks of the trade since we all know he doen't have much left in the tank and injury prone.

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Originally Posted by skinsfan0201

Gannon, at the very least was still in the early part of his career, and with the possibility of greatness, while Brunell is essentially supposed to be the teacher of the tricks of the trade since we all know he doen't have much left in the tank and injury prone.

Tim Hasselbeck is in an even earlier part of his career. Greatness could be bestowed upon him in 2012. Should we have held onto him?

How about Tony Banks?

[skinsfan0201]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

Tim Hasselbeck is in an even earlier part of his career. Greatness could be bestowed upon him in 2012. Should we have held onto him?

How about Tony Banks?

Hasselback does not possess the physical tools of any of the quarterbacks mentioned previously.

Speaking of feelings, when the physical tools are not there and you are not in the league of Joe Montana in reading the field and knowing the opponents like the back of your hand you will probably have problems being successful in the NFL.

[STPainmaker]

Originally Posted by skinsfan0201

Hasselback does not possess the physical tools of any of the quarterbacks mentioned previously.

Speaking of feelings, when the physical tools are not there and you are not in the league of Joe Montana in reading the field and knowing the opponents like the back of your hand you will probably have problems being successful in the NFL.

I respect your point, but I think simply that Gannon and Green were with us when either we couldn't keep them or we saw no reason to keep them. If not the front offices that made these decisions were several regimes ago anyway, we can only hope to minimize letting good players go.

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Originally Posted by skinsfan0201

Speaking of feelings, when the physical tools are not there and you are not in the league of Joe Montana in reading the field and knowing the opponents like the back of your hand you will probably have problems being successful in the NFL.

What do you mean "speaking of feelings"?

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Speaking of feelings, I think that the Redskins knew that Hassleback more than likely did not have what it takes to be a starter in the NFL anytime soon.

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Originally Posted by TAFKAS

In fact in those 8 games he played with the Skins he had 704 yards passing (5.6 ypa), with 3 TDs and 7 INTs. Last year in 9 games Brunell had 1194 yards passing (5.0 ypa) with 7 TDs and 6 INTs. If you're going to say we should have given Gannon a chance you might as well say the same for Brunell.

Been a fan since '82

The difference is the age. As I posted, Brunell offers no long term solution to solidify the position. Gannon had troubles when he was young, and often times they work out. When someone gets to the end of their career and their talent and physical attributes begin to fail them, and they don't realize it, jerry rice for instance, and they can't let go, people still install faith in them and carry them through a couple of lousy years and call hindsight 20/20 when they don't produce and leave you scratching your head and smelling your finger.

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Originally Posted by canthetuna

The difference is the age. As I posted, Brunell offers no long term solution to solidify the position. Gannon had troubles when he was young, and often times they work out. When someone gets to the end of their career and their talent and physical attributes begin to fail them, and they don't realize it, jerry rice for instance, and they can't let go, people still install faith in them and carry them through a couple of lousy years and call hindsight 20/20 when they don't produce and leave you scratching your head and smelling your finger.

A fair argument. I just don't see the Trent Green scenario as being the same. I wish we kept him but we just couldn't realistically. And I don't think people can say we drove Gannon out of town. He didn't show anything here. I mean people can say it, they have already. I just disagree