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Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Griffin has been horrible. Manning has not. Griffin is a diva who never accepts responsibility for his own failings. Manning is a true leader and takes responsibility for the failings of his teammates. This situation would never happen with manning because manning is a classy hall of fame player and rg3 is like a petulant child who feels he's entitled to respect he hasn't earned.

Those are pretty harsh words about Griff because of one post game interview where he didnt say the rite things. I mean dont you think you are blowing things out of proportion just a little bit? When did he say he was entitled to respect? If Manning was 24 playing on a shit team put together by a stubborn shit coach maybe he would have appeared less classy. Just sayin,.....

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Those are pretty harsh words about Griff because of one post game interview where he didnt say the rite things. I mean dont you think you are blowing things out of proportion just a little bit? When did he say he was entitled to respect? If Manning was 24 playing on a shit team put together by a stubborn shit coach maybe he would have appeared less classy. Just sayin,.....

It's not one interview. It's been all year. And he has a reputation for being a diva. The Washington post has been throwing out tidbits for a while. He's got a lot of Clinton Portis in him. Do some internet searching. Also, nfl.com reported tonight that rg3 was benched for poor performance, plain and simple. Add to that the reports that shanahan never wanted to trade for rg3 and that was snyders pushing, and the present situation makes a lot of sense. I don't think shanahans a great coach. And by all accounts, he's not the easiest person to interact with. But rg3 isn't some innocent victim here. Anyone who feels confident he's a franchise qb is an idiot. He used to be athletic, but now he's just another qb who the team gives extraordinary slack because of what he cost to get. I think it's more likely He's a bad investment were going to hold on to for too long than the savior of this franchise.

[SmootSmack]

Why do people think Shanahan was lying 100% of the time...except when he talked about John Beck?

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Why do people think Shanahan was lying 100% of the time...except when he talked about John Beck?

I don't think Shanahan lies 100% of the time, I think he manipulates the truth to fit his current situation 100% of the time. Sometimes, he's genuine and forthright. But only when being such fits his immediate agenda.

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Why do people think Shanahan was lying 100% of the time...except when he talked about John Beck?

.....and his reasoning behind benching Griff.
Edit: what about the whole Dr Andrews clearing him to go back into the game against Baltimore?

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Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

I love humor as much as the next guy, but I'd at least like someone to explain to me the joke that I'm the butt of. :-)

I believe those were comments that the non- diva, classy Peyton Manning made about his teammates to the media that SS posted.....

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by punch it in

I believe those were comments that the non- diva, classy Peyton Manning made about his teammates to the media that SS posted.....

In game, and to the media

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by punch it in

I believe those were comments that the non- diva, classy Peyton Manning made about his teammates to the media that SS posted.....

Peyton yelled God damnit Donald Brown in the middle of the game during a play when he wasn't where he was supposed to be, it was awesome. Its gotta be on youtube somewhere.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by punch it in

I believe those were comments that the non- diva, classy Peyton Manning made about his teammates to the media that SS posted.....

Ah I use an ipad so I can't see media.

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Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

It's not one interview. It's been all year. And he has a reputation for being a diva. The Washington post has been throwing out tidbits for a while. He's got a lot of Clinton Portis in him. Do some internet searching. Also, nfl.com reported tonight that rg3 was benched for poor performance, plain and simple. Add to that the reports that shanahan never wanted to trade for rg3 and that was snyders pushing, and the present situation makes a lot of sense. I don't think shanahans a great coach. And by all accounts, he's not the easiest person to interact with. But rg3 isn't some innocent victim here. Anyone who feels confident he's a franchise qb is an idiot. He used to be athletic, but now he's just another qb who the team gives extraordinary slack because of what he cost to get. I think it's more likely He's a bad investment were going to hold on to for too long than the savior of this franchise.

"I'm not afraid to sit here and say, 'Put that on my shoulders,' " Griffin said, via the Washington Post. "I'll take that. We didn't start fast because of me. If I've got to do a little bit more to clean up that sloppiness, then I'll do it."

But I guess when your not playing well its to be expected that people are going to paint you in a negative light.
Last year when this guy was Superman he said all the rite things, now he is a diva? Lol

[sdskinsfan2001]

RGIII is our starting QB in 2014. If Shanahan doesn't agree he will be fired. He had an amazing year, and this year as a team was just abysmal. He is our franchise qb.

Now that he is benched, which there are pro's and con's to either side, he is guaranteed to have a full off season to work out and learn the offense and get reps. Next year no more knee brace, more confidence, and a better team with the extra cap money and picks.

I want RGIII for 10 more years, but I want him for 10 more years in a real NFL offense. Pistol read option should be a limited wrinkle, not a base play of the offense. This is the NFL, everyone is an athlete, he won't last long with the big hits he's taking every week.

Per this year, just like every other year since 1991, lets get em next year. Hail!

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Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

I'm sure he was referring to #1 overall in the 2nd round lol.

No, he wasnt. I thought that when I first tuned in. He kept saying the number one, two overall pick. Talking about us, Houston, and Atlanta. He eventually acknowledged his mistake. The premise to his entire rant was that it is a win win for the Redskins next year- Griff healthy and the number one pick in the draft. He went on for a solid five minutes referencing our "first round" pick several times. Lol.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by punch it in

No, he wasnt. I thought that when I first tuned in. He kept saying the number one, two overall pick. Talking about us, Houston, and Atlanta. He eventually acknowledged his mistake. The premise to his entire rant was that it is a win win for the Redskins next year- Griff healthy and the number one pick in the draft. He went on for a solid five minutes referencing our "first round" pick several times. Lol.

That is bush league work! How do you have a job discussing football and not know the RGIII trade details. Man, I need to start applying.

Know what sucks about not having a 1st round pick? A lot of mock drafts only do 1 round, so I don't get to see who they predict for the Skins.

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Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

That is bush league work! How do you have a job discussing football and not know the RGIII trade details. Man, I need to start applying.

Know what sucks about not having a 1st round pick? A lot of mock drafts only do 1 round, so I don't get to see who they predict for the Skins.

Yeah I was shocked. I mean all the talk about the situation in DC and one thing nobody has mentioned is that Shanny is throwing the season away for the first pick....because we dont have one! Lol. Dont you think that somebody in the free world would have thrown that out there? The guy must literally live under a rock.
I hear you about the draft, but as a Skins fan this isnt the first time we have had to google search for "full mock drafts". Lol

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Jerome bettis actually agrees with mike and says Griffin needs this time to study from the sideline, honestly it does make some sense