Redskins vs. Falcons Post-Game Thread

[FRPLG]

Rak has been a very good player for us. Outside of the injuries. For the 13th(?) pick in the draft we got pretty good return. I'd take a player of Rak's relative capabilities everywhere on the team.

[skinsguy]

I think here's the thing to remember. Other teams are probably going to offer Brian Orakpo a comparable contract to one the 'skins will offer him. I don't know if you're going to find a team that's willing to offer him an elite contract. And if so, more power to Brian. Maybe I'm being overly optimistic (or maybe in the case of Rak, pessimistic) but I think it will come down to simply Rak wanting to stay a Redskin or wanting a change in scenery. I don't think he's done enough to command a huge contract, but I could be wrong.

With that said, I do hope he's retained, because both him and Kerrigan are solid guys to build a defense around.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

I don't know if you're going to find a team that's willing to offer him an elite contract..

Teams do stupid shit. Cleveland offered Paul Kruger a stupid contract.

[donofriose]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Teams do stupid shit. Cleveland offered Paul Kruger a stupid contract.

Hopefully the days of the skins giving out overpaid contracts are behind them.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Teams do stupid shit. Cleveland offered Paul Kruger a stupid contract.

This is true.

[GTripp0012]

Shanahan has a long history of making the wrong decision with the cornerstone defensive player, so the key issue is getting the right guy in here who will make the best decision for the longterm health of the franchise.

[donofriose]

Cousins performance was similar to the performance of RG3 vs Minnesota. Amazing first half and then the second half happened. Except cousins threw picks.

It's not a coincidence that Washingtons offense played well against two of the worst defenses in the NFL.

I think a good game to judge cousins will be the giants game. Sadly enough they are the best D cousins will face.

[mooby]

The thing I don't like is the broadcast team from last week seemed to suggest Rak was looking forward to testing the open market. And I know that FA always tends to overvalue pass rashers, even if they are just semi-decent ones like Rak. I'd like to have him back at the right price, but I'm concerned he's gonna bolt once he gets a huge contract offer. We could do a lot worse than Rak. Anyone remember '08 Phillip Daniels? Good guy but non-existent as a pass rushing DE.

[Mechanix544]

I see what you are saying moob, but i'd be hardpressed, now this is just me, to rate orakpo as a semi decent pass rusher. He is definite top 10 with all the talent to be top 5. I hope he is not the type to phone it in after getting 48 mill over 5 or 6 years, and I don't think he would. The guy is a team first guy, and has a great work ethic from every report I've ever read.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Mechanix544

I see what you are saying moob, but i'd be hardpressed, now this is just me, to rate orakpo as a semi decent pass rusher. He is definite top 10 with all the talent to be top 5. I hope he is not the type to phone it in after getting 48 mill over 5 or 6 years, and I don't think he would. The guy is a team first guy, and has a great work ethic from every report I've ever read.

I mean I don't want to say he's elite, but he's not average either. I'll settle for above-average. I just don't want to commit a huge chunk of cap to him, that's all. Kerrigan will be due eventually and we all know if RG3 rebounds from this year he will get a huge deal in a year or two. You can't be putting most of your money into a small group of players. You think the Ravens want to be paying Flacco elite money now? I like Orakpo, I want him to be here for a long time, I just don't want to be paying him huge money. An above-average deal for an above-average player sounds good to me.

[MTK]

Just recently he said he wants to stay here.

Brian Orakpo says his preference remains to re-sign with Redskins

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Just recently he said he wants to stay here.

Brian Orakpo says his preference remains to re-sign with Redskins

I'd say he's worth about 4 more.years around for 20M something along those lines

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I'd say he's worth about 4 more.years around for 20M something along those lines

I'd say more along the lines of 5 yrs $40M.

$5M a year isn't going to cut it here or anywhere.

[Mechanix544]

Michael Johnson, Anthony Spencer and Julius Peppers each get around 11.5 - 12.5 per year. Tamba Hali makes 11.8.

Is there any universe that Brian Orakpo isn't worth 7.5 or 8 mil per year for us?

I think that he might walk if someone offers 10 mil per or above. Unless he is serious about staying a skin, and we up our offer to around 9 or so, I see him going elsewhere. I would cap it at 9 per year though. Backloaded too, in case of that nagging pec acts back up.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I'd say more along the lines of 5 yrs $40M.

$5M a year isn't going to cut it here or anywhere.

I just don't know if he's worth a ton yet