Goodbye Kyle?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Who is giving these half truths to the media?

I don't know. It's an unfortunate mess all around. Snyder needs to get rid of a lot of people in that organization, and I'm not even just talking about football-related personnel.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I don't know. It's an unfortunate mess all around. Snyder needs to get rid of a lot of people in that organization, and I'm not even just talking about football-related personnel.

U think he will? Talking to the press and going public with internal strife makes everything worse. Wonder if it was less noise if the coaching staff could operate better? I. Mean I guess if the coach is leaking info it becomes a free for all. Seems like a lot of paranoia within the organization

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

U think he will? Talking to the press and going public with internal strife makes everything worse. Wonder if it was less noise if the coaching staff could operate better? I. Mean I guess if the coach is leaking info it becomes a free for all. Seems like a lot of paranoia within the organization

Do I think Snyder will clean house?

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Do I think Snyder will clean house?

Will he get rid of the people causing problems within the organization? Is that the house? A better question is he fully aware? Not feeling confident within the fo. Culture must be bad

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Will he get rid of the people causing problems within the organization? Is that the house? A better question is he fully aware? Not feeling confident within the fo. Culture must be bad

I doubt it. I mean for one thing, it sounds like Morocco Brown is the early favorite to become the next GM. Which I think is a big mistake. I mean I'm not saying he isn't qualified. I'm saying don't just hand it to him. Scott Campbell has been around forever and is fine, but I'd look to see if we can't do better there too.

But you've got guys in sales, marketing, etc. who are just difficult people to work with/for. And, look I'm not saying they're the leaks, I'm just saying there are people in that building that I just don't trust.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I mean for one thing, it sounds like Morocco Brown is the early favorite to become the next GM. Which I think is a big mistake.

Why a big mistake?

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

But you've got guys in sales, marketing, etc. who are just difficult people to work with/for. And, look I'm not saying they're the leaks, I'm just saying there are people in that building that I just don't trust.

They rehire Karl Swanson? Quick, somebody to check to see if the handle Andyman is in use on twitter/redskins forums.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

... But you've got guys in sales, marketing, etc. who are just difficult people to work with/for. And, look I'm not saying they're the leaks, I'm just saying there are people in that building that I just don't trust.

That is disheartening to hear. As I understood it, Cerrato encouraged these types of attitudes within the organization through his own blame shifting ways. When he was fired, and I praised the "culture change" that I believed Mike Shanahan and B. Allen were bringing to the organization. Unfortunately, whether half truths or not, it appears there are some elements of truth to some of the various leaks about Kyle & Mike's motives.

Thus, while it seems obvious that Mike brought in "team" players and changed the culture of the locker room, it appears the deeper cancer within the organization has not been cured. In light of recent disclosures about Kyle and Mike, it appears that individuals who lack integrity, seek to shift blame and protect themselves by stabbing others in the back are still able to ply their through a lack of integrity. Certainly, Mike and Kyle have both been, at a minimum, disingenuous about their motives and by doing so demonstrate an organizational lack of integrity ("Hey, I am trying to be honest with you. I don't normally do that.").

My question is ... does DS know he has untrustworthy people working for him? Does he care? For these people, is all that matters to Dan that they "produce" in their specific line of responsibility (i.e. they are great marketers but backstabbing, lying SOB's)?

Mike may have fixed the integrity of the locker room, but it appears he has continued business as usual throughout the rest of the institutional structure. If true, this is on Snyder. The lack of institutional integrity will torpedo any organization and, ultimately, ensuring the Skin's institutional integrity is the responsibility of the Snyder.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

That is disheartening to hear. As I understood it, Cerrato encouraged these types of attitudes within the organization through his own blame shifting ways. When he was fired, and I praised the "culture change" that I believed Mike Shanahan and B. Allen were bringing to the organization. Unfortunately, whether half truths or not, it appears there are some elements of truth to some of the various leaks about Kyle & Mike's motives.

Thus, while it seems obvious that Mike brought in "team" players and changed the culture of the locker room, it appears the deeper cancer within the organization has not been cured. In light of recent disclosures about Kyle and Mike, it appears that individuals who lack integrity, seek to shift blame and protect themselves by stabbing others in the back are still able to ply their through a lack of integrity. Certainly, Mike and Kyle have both been, at a minimum, disingenuous about their motives and by doing so demonstrate an organizational lack of integrity ("Hey, I am trying to be honest with you. I don't normally do that.").

My question is ... does DS know he has untrustworthy people working for him? Does he care? For these people, is all that matters to Dan that they "produce" in their specific line of responsibility (i.e. they are great marketers but backstabbing, lying SOB's)?

Mike may have fixed the integrity of the locker room, but it appears he has continued business as usual throughout the rest of the institutional structure. If true, this is on Snyder. The lack of institutional integrity will torpedo any organization and, ultimately, ensuring the Skin's institutional integrity is the responsibility of the Snyder.

Amazingly it actually is better even outside the locker room, just shows how bad it once was.

I think Snyder is aware that some people in his organization, while great at their assigned jobs, probably aren't going to win any congeniality awards. But he may not know the lengths they go to.

I've been approached a handful of times about joining that organization, and every time I meet with them I come away thinking it's really an every man for himself mentality there.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I don't know. It's an unfortunate mess all around. Snyder needs to get rid of a lot of people in that organization, and I'm not even just talking about football-related personnel.

Tony Wyllie being one of them.