It's official: Shanahan fired

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Garrett and Schwartz by far

Schwartz is a meh coach.

I'd milk one more year out of him in 2014. You can still try to sell the 2011 playoff appearance to the fan base. If you wait until after 2014 to change coaches, you're one year closer to getting out of cap hell. If you change coaches now, it's auto failure for the next guy. Stafford isn't an NFL quarterback.

Exact same situation in Dallas with Garrett, except that I feel his decision making is actively part of the problem. Dallas can milk a rebuilding year out of him, but they have to change before they compete.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Schwartz is a meh coach.

I'd milk one more year out of him in 2014. You can still try to sell the 2011 playoff appearance to the fan base. If you wait until after 2014 to change coaches, you're one year closer to getting out of cap hell. If you change coaches now, it's auto failure for the next guy. Stafford isn't an NFL quarterback.

Exact same situation in Dallas with Garrett, except that I feel his decision making is actively part of the problem. Dallas can milk a rebuilding year out of him, but they have to change before they compete.

Schwartz ended what 0-4? They should have had control of that division with the Bears and Green Bay floundering. Schwartz convinced me in the last month he is horrible. He challenges Shanny and Garrett and I think may have my top spot as worse coach in the league.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Schwartz ended what 0-4? They should have had control of that division with the Bears and Green Bay floundering. Schwartz convinced me in the last month he is horrible. He challenges Shanny and Garrett and I think may have my top spot as worse coach in the league.

He needed to put Stafford on the bench, and he can't be let off the hook for that. But by not doing so, he took a huge bullet for his organization. I hope everyone realizes that.

The Lions are a bad franchise.

[mooby]

Well, back to square one now. Oh well. As far as the assistant coaches go, doesn't matter who we keep for now or who we let go, I expect the new coach will make final decisions as to who is on his staff.

[DynamiteRave]

I'm glad to see Danny eating that last 7 million dollars. How long til the Shanahan apologists come trolling in and start blaming Snyder for being an awful owner?

He hasn't always made the best decisions but dude wants to win, period.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

I'm glad to see Danny eating that last 7 million dollars. How long til the Shanahan apologists come trolling in and start blaming Snyder for being an awful owner?

He hasn't always made the best decisions but dude wants to win, period.

Snyder is not w/out blame here. Obviously he did some things that undermined his head coach.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Snyder is not w/out blame here. Obviously he did some things that undermined his head coach.

This head coach?

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Snyder is not w/out blame here. Obviously he did some things that undermined his head coach.

Oh, please! The things that were reported as meddling by Snyder were small potatoes.

I think that Shanahan and his media mouthpieces blew up a few minor annoyances to Shanahan into the appearance that he was somehow hindered in doing his job by Snyder's meddling. What a crock that is!

We finished 3-13! We went 0-8 without a single win in the second half of the season! We didn't win a single division game! How bad does a team's performance have to be before the HC takes the blame?

A trained monkey, blindfolded and put in a straight jacket by Dan Snyder, could have coached this team to a win over somebody in the second half of the season.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

I think that Shanahan and his media mouthpieces blew up a few minor annoyances to Shanahan into the appearance that he was somehow hindered in doing his job by Snyder's meddling. What a crock that is!

That was the problem. What might seem like minor annoyances to us and probably most people were big problems for Shanahan. He was obsessed with controlling everything. Whenever he felt even remotely threatened he got all weaselly Machiavellian. I think he might actually be crazy.

[SFREDSKIN]

I know David Shaw might not be interested but I hope the Redskins make an attempt to reach out to him.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Snyder is not w/out blame here. Obviously he did some things that undermined his head coach.

I think what is obvious is that Shanny is a very insecure person. I think Snyder did some things that the insecure Shanny considered "damaging" but that a confident well-adjusted HC would have been able to handle pretty easily. If being friends with the team's QB is what people want to hang their hats on to support Shanny and vilify Snyder then you have a tremendously weak argument.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

I think what is obvious is that Shanny is a very insecure person. I think Snyder did some things that the insecure Shanny considered "damaging" but that a confident well-adjusted HC would have been able to handle pretty easily. If being friends with the team's QB is what people want to hang their hats on to support Shanny and vilify Snyder then you have a tremendously weak argument.

Well I will agree that he's probably insecure. That's something a Gibbs could probably handle. And as I've said before, if it's a more established player then it's fine. A rookie? Not a good thing at all. Hopefully the next coach won't have to put up with it, or is secure enough to ignore it.

[FRPLG]

Well we'll disagree on whether in this situation it was much of a problem or whether the reporting on it is very accurate anyways but...

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Hopefully the next coach won't have to put up with it, or is secure enough to ignore it.

It shouldn't be ignored. If (big if to me) it is some type of problem the HC has to handle it. Not by trying to manipulate the situation in a deceitful and shameless way but by dealing it with it like a damn responsible adult.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Well I will agree that he's probably insecure. That's something a Gibbs could probably handle. And as I've said before, if it's a more established player then it's fine. A rookie? Not a good thing at all. Hopefully the next coach won't have to put up with it, or is secure enough to ignore it.

Redskins fire coach Shanahan after 3-13 season | Comcast


Shanahan demanded - and received - contractual control over all football matters when he joined the Redskins, and he repeatedly emphasized the need to run a disciplined organization with a sense of decorum. He weeded out the disgruntled players - most notably Albert Haynesworth - but ultimately was unable to stymie what he called the ''circus atmosphere'' that has permeated the Redskins under Snyder. Leaks, rumors and power struggles were just as bad as before. He leaves with the same regular-season winning percentage (.375) in Washington as Spurrier and Zorn.
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[jamf]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Snyder is not w/out blame here. Obviously he did some things that undermined his head coach.

Do you have proof of this?
You should if it's obvious.