It's official: Shanahan fired

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by RobH4413

I tend to disagree with that notion. Shanahan, from a pure coaching perspective (X's and O's, coaching guys to play above their normal threshold, etc) is a fantastic coach.

He calls a good game, plays the odds, and I've always respected his accomplishments on the field in a game. I think where he implodes is on any personnel decisions. That's why they gave him the boot in Denver, and ultimately why he has failed here in D.C.

Either way, he's gone. Good riddance. I'm not excited this go round for out coaching change. Quite frankly, I'm extremely pessimistic. I think there are some good choices out there (Jay Gruden HC, Raheem Morris DC, Hire a true GM), but I simply think we won't do it.

I think he showed himself to be an incredibly bad in-game coach for us personally.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by RobH4413

I tend to disagree with that notion. Shanahan, from a pure coaching perspective (X's and O's, coaching guys to play above their normal threshold, etc) used to be a fantastic coach.

Don't worry, I fixed it.

[Mechanix544]

Originally Posted by RobH4413

I tend to disagree with that notion. Shanahan, from a pure coaching perspective (X's and O's, coaching guys to play above their normal threshold, etc) is a fantastic coach.

He calls a good game, plays the odds, and I've always respected his accomplishments on the field in a game. I think where he implodes is on any personnel decisions. That's why they gave him the boot in Denver, and ultimately why he has failed here in D.C.

Either way, he's gone. Good riddance. I'm not excited this go round for out coaching change. Quite frankly, I'm extremely pessimistic. I think there are some good choices out there (Jay Gruden HC, Raheem Morris DC, Hire a true GM), but I simply think we won't do it.

All the above that is highlighted, italicced and underlined, sorry to say, is bull-fucking-shit.

One playoff win in 14 years AFTER ELWAY, guy was a god in denver for a while, and it took them a while to cut bait, cause they finally found out that he rode Elway all the way to the bank and back a couple times. He accomplished jack shit without that guy, and the numbers, statistics as well as his tenure in DC prove it, at least to me. Game has passed this mofo by like a fukkin bullet train. He should give John Elway half of his salary for the past 4 years, cause Elway is the ONLY reason he got this fuckin job in the first place. I don't think there has ever been a more blatant case of a great QB making an average coach seem great.

Proof is in the pudding.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Mechanix544

All the above that is highlighted, italicced and underlined, sorry to say, is bull-fucking-shit.

One playoff win in 14 years AFTER ELWAY, guy was a god in denver for a while, and it took them a while to cut bait, cause they finally found out that he rode Elway all the way to the bank and back a couple times. He accomplished jack shit without that guy, and the numbers, statistics as well as his tenure in DC prove it, at least to me. Game has passed this mofo by like a fukkin bullet train. He should give John Elway half of his salary for the past 4 years, cause Elway is the ONLY reason he got this fuckin job in the first place. I don't think there has ever been a more blatant case of a great QB making an average coach seem great.

Proof is in the pudding.

I think it is ridiculous to say that MS doesn't know X's and O's. He is very well respected around the league, from former players and coaches. He knows offense. It seems he has other short comings...communication, player personnel, insecurities, stubbornness and so on. But I'm not going to say he doesn't know offense.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I think it is ridiculous to say that MS doesn't know X's and O's. He is very well respected around the league, from former players and coaches. He knows offense. It seems he has other short comings...communication, player personnel, insecurities, stubbornness and so on. But I'm not going to say he doesn't know offense.

He knows X's and O's no doubt, although it was really Kyle's show here offensively, but we needed MS to be a leader of men, and all those factors you mentioned ultimately lead to his downfall here.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by HonoluluBlue

It's become clear to me, and I think to a lot of people, that Shanahan was largely the beneficiary of coaching John Elway in his prime. If it wasn't for that he would have never been as successful as he was. I don't see him finding another job now.

This. Elway has had success without Shanny. Shanny is a loser.

[JGisLordOfTheRings]

"And the only thing Shanahan has to show for it, is a broken QB with dreadlocks."

[saden1]

The Redskins job is a desirable HC job insofar as getting a fat paycheck. I would pick any job over the Skins, well, maybe not the Raiders job.

[HonoluluBlue]

Originally Posted by saden1

The Redskins job is a desirable HC job insofar as getting a fat paycheck.

The location is a bonus, too. DC/Northern Virginia is a nice place to live if you have money.

Other than that...yeah. You'd have to be a brave soul to take the Redskins job right now with all the drama.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by HonoluluBlue

The location is a bonus, too. DC/Northern Virginia is a nice place to live if you have money.

Other than that...yeah. You'd have to be a brave soul to take the Redskins job right now with all the drama.

What's a better alternative? You have the 2012 ROY at QB, the league leader in receptions, a 1600 yard rusher, one of the best Left Tackles in the league, a promising young Tight End, a roster that just won the division last year, a division that is the worst in the league, and the best CAP situation in the NFC.

These men aren't babies. They aren't going to be scared off by Snyder. That's an average Joe fan illusion.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

What's a better alternative? You have the 2012 ROY at QB, the league leader in receptions, a 1600 yard rusher, one of the best Left Tackles in the league, a promising young Tight End, a roster that just won the division last year, a division that is the worst in the league, and the best CAP situation in the NFC.

These men aren't babies. They aren't going to be scared off by Snyder. That's an average Joe fan illusion.

Or you could look at it this way. You have to work for an owner who pals around w/ the QB, you have two young QB's and don't know if either are the long term future, one of which might be hard to coach, 2-3 starters need to be replaced on the o-line, need another wr or two, TE can't stay on the field, no pass rush, no safties, no MLB and no first round pick. This isn't one of the top jobs anymore. The Lions job is better job than this one.

[Gary84Clark]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Or you could look at it this way. You have to work for an owner who pals around w/ the QB, you have two young QB's and don't know if either are the long term future, one of which might be hard to coach, 2-3 starters need to be replaced on the o-line, need another wr or two, TE can't stay on the field, no pass rush, no safties, no MLB and no first round pick. This isn't one of the top jobs anymore. The Lions job is better job than this one.

According to Shannahan.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

What's a better alternative? You have the 2012 ROY at QB, the league leader in receptions, a 1600 yard rusher, one of the best Left Tackles in the league, a promising young Tight End, a roster that just won the division last year, a division that is the worst in the league, and the best CAP situation in the NFC.

These men aren't babies. They aren't going to be scared off by Snyder. That's an average Joe fan illusion.

Not to mention...there are only 32 of these jobs in the world.

[Brody81]

Originally Posted by chrisl13

How much impact do you guys think RG3 had on this decision? The guy left Redskins Park without speaking to the media and hasn't endorsed Shanahan like other players (Reed Doughty, Chris Neild, etc.) have done on twitter and in public.



Can we deem RG3 a "Coach Killer"? I really like the guy but I'm starting to see how he really is. Stubborn and doesn't like to be told what to do.

I was listening to 980 an hour ago and Kevin, and Tom where discussing Kirk Cousins interview about the coaching change. In the interview Kirk mentioned Roberts name as part of the coach hiring committee. I sure hope that isn't the case..


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[MTK]

Originally Posted by brody81

i was listening to 980 an hour ago and kevin, and tom where discussing kirk cousins interview about the coaching change. In the interview kirk mentioned roberts name as part of the coach hiring committee. I sure hope that isn't the case..


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