It's official: Shanahan fired

[HonoluluBlue]

It's become clear to me, and I think to a lot of people, that Shanahan was largely the beneficiary of coaching John Elway in his prime. If it wasn't for that he would have never been as successful as he was. I don't see him finding another job now.

[RobH4413]

Originally Posted by HonoluluBlue

It's become clear to me, and I think to a lot of people, that Shanahan was largely the beneficiary of coaching John Elway in his prime. If it wasn't for that he would have never been as successful as he was. I don't see him finding another job now.

I tend to disagree with that notion. Shanahan, from a pure coaching perspective (X's and O's, coaching guys to play above their normal threshold, etc) is a fantastic coach.

He calls a good game, plays the odds, and I've always respected his accomplishments on the field in a game. I think where he implodes is on any personnel decisions. That's why they gave him the boot in Denver, and ultimately why he has failed here in D.C.

Either way, he's gone. Good riddance. I'm not excited this go round for out coaching change. Quite frankly, I'm extremely pessimistic. I think there are some good choices out there (Jay Gruden HC, Raheem Morris DC, Hire a true GM), but I simply think we won't do it.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by RobH4413

I tend to disagree with that notion. Shanahan, from a pure coaching perspective (X's and O's, coaching guys to play above their normal threshold, etc) is a fantastic coach.

He calls a good game, plays the odds, and I've always respected his accomplishments on the field in a game. I think where he implodes is on any personnel decisions. That's why they gave him the boot in Denver, and ultimately why he has failed here in D.C.

Either way, he's gone. Good riddance. I'm not excited this go round for out coaching change. Quite frankly, I'm extremely pessimistic. I think there are some good choices out there (Jay Gruden HC, Raheem Morris DC, Hire a true GM), but I simply think we won't do it.

I think he showed himself to be an incredibly bad in-game coach for us personally.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by RobH4413

I tend to disagree with that notion. Shanahan, from a pure coaching perspective (X's and O's, coaching guys to play above their normal threshold, etc) used to be a fantastic coach.

Don't worry, I fixed it.

[Mechanix544]

Originally Posted by RobH4413

I tend to disagree with that notion. Shanahan, from a pure coaching perspective (X's and O's, coaching guys to play above their normal threshold, etc) is a fantastic coach.

He calls a good game, plays the odds, and I've always respected his accomplishments on the field in a game. I think where he implodes is on any personnel decisions. That's why they gave him the boot in Denver, and ultimately why he has failed here in D.C.

Either way, he's gone. Good riddance. I'm not excited this go round for out coaching change. Quite frankly, I'm extremely pessimistic. I think there are some good choices out there (Jay Gruden HC, Raheem Morris DC, Hire a true GM), but I simply think we won't do it.

All the above that is highlighted, italicced and underlined, sorry to say, is bull-fucking-shit.

One playoff win in 14 years AFTER ELWAY, guy was a god in denver for a while, and it took them a while to cut bait, cause they finally found out that he rode Elway all the way to the bank and back a couple times. He accomplished jack shit without that guy, and the numbers, statistics as well as his tenure in DC prove it, at least to me. Game has passed this mofo by like a fukkin bullet train. He should give John Elway half of his salary for the past 4 years, cause Elway is the ONLY reason he got this fuckin job in the first place. I don't think there has ever been a more blatant case of a great QB making an average coach seem great.

Proof is in the pudding.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Mechanix544

All the above that is highlighted, italicced and underlined, sorry to say, is bull-fucking-shit.

One playoff win in 14 years AFTER ELWAY, guy was a god in denver for a while, and it took them a while to cut bait, cause they finally found out that he rode Elway all the way to the bank and back a couple times. He accomplished jack shit without that guy, and the numbers, statistics as well as his tenure in DC prove it, at least to me. Game has passed this mofo by like a fukkin bullet train. He should give John Elway half of his salary for the past 4 years, cause Elway is the ONLY reason he got this fuckin job in the first place. I don't think there has ever been a more blatant case of a great QB making an average coach seem great.

Proof is in the pudding.

I think it is ridiculous to say that MS doesn't know X's and O's. He is very well respected around the league, from former players and coaches. He knows offense. It seems he has other short comings...communication, player personnel, insecurities, stubbornness and so on. But I'm not going to say he doesn't know offense.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I think it is ridiculous to say that MS doesn't know X's and O's. He is very well respected around the league, from former players and coaches. He knows offense. It seems he has other short comings...communication, player personnel, insecurities, stubbornness and so on. But I'm not going to say he doesn't know offense.

He knows X's and O's no doubt, although it was really Kyle's show here offensively, but we needed MS to be a leader of men, and all those factors you mentioned ultimately lead to his downfall here.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by HonoluluBlue

It's become clear to me, and I think to a lot of people, that Shanahan was largely the beneficiary of coaching John Elway in his prime. If it wasn't for that he would have never been as successful as he was. I don't see him finding another job now.

This. Elway has had success without Shanny. Shanny is a loser.