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Old 12-31-2013, 02:59 PM   #1
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Well maybe it is a misread on my part, but if he meant that once they have a new coach they will redefine the players they're going after, why not say that?

Instead he said we will redefine and yeah of course a new coach will want to make schematic changes, but I make the decisions.
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Old 12-31-2013, 03:02 PM   #2
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You all keep saying the same thing and acting like I am completely off-base, but he very clearly says the decisions on scheme lie with him, why is that ok with everyone?
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Old 12-31-2013, 03:05 PM   #3
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You all keep saying the same thing and acting like I am completely off-base, but he very clearly says the decisions on scheme lie with him, why is that ok with everyone?
Because he clearly does not say that. He said that a new coach will bring schematic changes and they will pick their players based on the best fit for said scheme. Why is that so hard to understand? You keep trying to twist and bend his words so you can make yourself and us believe your logic. It's very simple. Pick a new coach, draft and sign players that fit his scheme.
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Old 12-31-2013, 03:10 PM   #4
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Well this got dumb really quick.
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Old 12-31-2013, 03:13 PM   #5
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Well this got dumb really quick.
It's good to see Allen has supporters and detractors.
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Old 12-31-2013, 03:46 PM   #6
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Re: Let's talk about the front office situation

the pessimist in me interpreted allen's strong statement of "the decision will be mine" as trying to put an end to any early speculation about DS making football/player decisions.

im in a wait and see mode. i like allen being the clear head person in charge ... but a part of me is very afraid he will allow DS to whisper in his ear but deny DS doing so.

these are very important times for the skins franchise. stakes are high. i really need allen to truly take charge. for the love of my B&G .. please.
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Old 12-31-2013, 03:57 PM   #7
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im in a wait and see mode. i like allen being the clear head person in charge ... but a part of me is very afraid he will allow DS to whisper in his ear but deny DS doing so.
On the major major decisions, don't you think most owners around the league are doing this anyway? Irsay tweeted the crap out of the Andrew Luck process and pick. All owners want to be involved in the picking of head coaches. But as long as Snyder is not choosing who he wants as a 5th round pick like Jerruh is in Dallas, then that's the norm in the NFL and absolutely fine with me.

I want a coach who coaches and an administrative department who administrates and picks players, and an owner who puts his stamp on it but doesn't meddle. I like the model they're headed towards, as long as they can find a coach who is OK with Allen picking the players - through reliance on his scouting dept - I hate to say Allen is picking the players because all he'll be doing is relying on Brown and Campbell.

Sounds like they're targeting Sean McDermott and Darrell Bevell in early interviews. I doubt those guys would be the types to insist on total personnel control.
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Re: Let's talk about the front office situation

Allen pretty clearly said that Campbell will be running the draft and Brown handling free agency. He us probably the final say guy and the one who would sign off on trades and things like that but I didn't get the sense that it was all Bruce making the personnel decisions.
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As for Allen's credentials, people love to point to his failure in Tampa. Well look at those years, the team was aging from its SB glory and had to turn over for salary cap purposes. Sapp had to retire, Simeon Rice got old, John Lynch's cap number got too high, and most importantly of all, Brad Johnson got too old and they had to turnover the QB position.

Hard to hold Allen and Gruden responsible when there's no franchise QB on the roster. I really do think things will look up for us under this new model and with RG3 in tow. Heck, this year alone we could make major strides if we're smart with all this cap space we have. We will be shoppers, that's for sure.
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Old 12-31-2013, 04:47 PM   #10
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It is my firm belief that so long as Snyder is the owner the GM position is merely ceremonial.

It's hard to have confidence in Bruce Allen given the last 4 years and his lack of leadership.
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Old 12-31-2013, 04:59 PM   #11
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So I just watched the presser, and I apologize, because it is pretty clear in the video that my concerns were due to misinterpreting the transcribed statement. I really appreciate that some people were willing to point that out politely. Some people here were rude about my mistake, and maybe I should have watched the video before posting, but you know, not everyone has time to sit down and do that. You really took the fun out of this site for me, why post anything if an honest mistake will be greeted with mocking? Ok, I know I'm being way too sensitive about it, but generally I have valid opinions and this kind of thing makes me not want to post here. That is why I have been on this site for almost 8 years and have so few posts. It really amazes me, because you've have made yourselves out to be more reasonable people than ExtremeSkins, but maybe I'll post my stupid thoughts there instead. Anyways, just felt like putting that out there. Happy New Year!
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So I just watched the presser, and I apologize, because it is pretty clear in the video that my concerns were due to misinterpreting the transcribed statement. I really appreciate that some people were willing to point that out politely. Some people here were rude about my mistake, and maybe I should have watched the video before posting, but you know, not everyone has time to sit down and do that. You really took the fun out of this site for me, why post anything if an honest mistake will be greeted with mocking? Ok, I know I'm being way too sensitive about it, but generally I have valid opinions and this kind of thing makes me not want to post here. That is why I have been on this site for almost 8 years and have so few posts. It really amazes me, because you've have made yourselves out to be more reasonable people than ExtremeSkins, but maybe I'll post my stupid thoughts there instead. Anyways, just felt like putting that out there. Happy New Year!

Hey man didn't mean to make you feel that way. In the end we all want the same thing and we're passionate about it. Just do us a favor and never compare this site to that shithole extremeskins

Happy New Year to all.
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Old 12-31-2013, 05:08 PM   #13
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Hey man didn't mean to make you feel that way. In the end we all want the same thing and we're passionate about it. Just do us a favor and never compare this site to that shithole extremeskins

Happy New Year to all.
Thank you, I sincerely did not expect an apology from anyone. And certainly going to ES is an idle threat, just blowing off steam, but Thanks!
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Old 01-01-2014, 10:44 AM   #14
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So I just watched the presser, and I apologize, because it is pretty clear in the video that my concerns were due to misinterpreting the transcribed statement. I really appreciate that some people were willing to point that out politely. Some people here were rude about my mistake, and maybe I should have watched the video before posting, but you know, not everyone has time to sit down and do that. You really took the fun out of this site for me, why post anything if an honest mistake will be greeted with mocking? Ok, I know I'm being way too sensitive about it, but generally I have valid opinions and this kind of thing makes me not want to post here. That is why I have been on this site for almost 8 years and have so few posts. It really amazes me, because you've have made yourselves out to be more reasonable people than ExtremeSkins, but maybe I'll post my stupid thoughts there instead. Anyways, just felt like putting that out there. Happy New Year!
The reality is if you toss out half baked thoughts on something you're not 100% informed on, you have to expect some level of mocking in return. Nobody is perfect obviously and we all make mistakes so it's all good. Try not to take it personal, I think we've all been "corrected" at times here.
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Old 01-01-2014, 02:55 PM   #15
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The reality is if you toss out half baked thoughts on something you're not 100% informed on, you have to expect some level of mocking in return. Nobody is perfect obviously and we all make mistakes so it's all good. Try not to take it personal, I think we've all been "corrected" at times here.
I appreciate your response. I'm glad you put "corrected" in quotations, because corrected would imply to me intelligent conversation in which people are informed of mistakes by explaining where they are thinking wrongly, and not attacks on a person's intelligence. Perhaps this is just a half baked thought of mine though.

I will be sure to not to post anything I'm not 100% informed on in the future. Sorry for taking it personally. Thank you!
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