Who Do You Want to Be The Head Coach?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Enough to call a cab

Touche. Still find it ridiculous you think that makes him unqualified

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Touche. Still find it ridiculous you think that makes him unqualified

A matter of principle. Same applies to Harbaugh, and I think the situation with Aldon Smith makes it clearer. Smith gets a DUI and Harbough can't really say anything other than it made him a better person when he did it. And I'm not kidding when I say Jay looks like a hard drinker. Kept wondering why his face is so puffy when he's not a fat guy. Coming from a fam of hard alcoholics that face is unmistakable.

But I don't think Gruden is a good candidate regardless. Several reasons. Still nothing on offense that's impressive (aside from an improvement over the Shanahans). No HC experience in the NFL, especially in a major market. It looks like a "fixed" hire with the Jay to Jon to Bruce connection.

Whisenhunt and Caldwell are better on the offensive side. Williams and Zimmer on the defensive side.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by The Goat

A matter of principle. Same applies to Harbaugh, and I think the situation with Aldon Smith makes it clearer. Smith gets a DUI and Harbough can't really say anything other than it made him a better person when he did it. And I'm not kidding when I say Jay looks like a hard drinker. Kept wondering why his face is so puffy when he's not a fat guy. Coming from a fam of hard alcoholics that face is unmistakable.

But I don't think Gruden is a good candidate regardless. Several reasons. Still nothing on offense that's impressive (aside from an improvement over the Shanahans). No HC experience in the NFL, especially in a major market. It looks like a "fixed" hire with the Jay to Jon to Bruce connection.

Whisenhunt and Caldwell are better on the offensive side. Williams and Zimmer on the defensive side.

But you'd want Jon Gruden?

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

But you'd want Jon Gruden?

I don't think his example with a DUI is any better but I wondered if he's part of a fallback plan, asked earlier?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by The Goat

I don't think his example with a DUI is any better but I wondered if he's part of a fallback plan, asked earlier?

He's not. So let me get this straight. You don't like Jay because he hasn't been an HC in a major market and he was arrested once for drunk driving, but you're hoping hiring him must mean a more direct path to Jon, who was also once arrested?

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

He's not. So let me get this straight. You don't like Jay because he hasn't been an HC in a major market and he was arrested once for drunk driving, but you're hoping hiring him must mean a more direct path to Jon, who was also once arrested?

I'm saying if the choice was limited to Grudens, I'd prefer Jon over Jay. Honestly I'd forgot Jon also had the DUI. If I remember right now it was one of the years Denver won a SB, something in an article I'd read mentioned both things.

But no, I dot want anyone named Gruden here. My paradigm based on what's available is:

Whisenhunt HC and whoever he picks for OC. GWilliams as DC and asst head coach. But I have no idea if Whisenhint would go for it.

Next option, replace Whisenhunt with Caldwell. Next, Williams HC. Last, Zimmer HC. I think every one of those guys has earned it far and above Jay Gruden, both on paper and on the field, leaving the potential for alcoholism aside.