Tell 'Em to Pack or Bring 'Em Back

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Why would you bring back a guy who tells the media he sleeps in team meetings? He needs to go, better options out there. When I look at our TE situation, Im more concerned that Pauleson was completely ineffective as a blocker and got dominanted time and time again.

Given the Shanny debacle, his knack for alienating players, I would give Davis another shot. Ryan Matthews is a good example. Evidently didn't show a lot of heart and commitment prior to this year. McCoy and Whisenhunt come in and Matthews runs like horse on steroids.

[delusional optimist]

Qbs-RG3 and Cousins( unless we get a real trade offer)
RBs-Morris,Helu,Royster and Young
TE-Jordan Reed( no need to keep Davis as at his best he is a lesser Reed)
WRs-Garcon and Hankerson
OT-Williams
OG-LeRibius( one more year to see if he can at least be a solid backup)
Cs-Montgomery and Lichtenstieger (one starts other is backup)

DL-Cofield,Jenkins,Neild, and Baker (these guys could fit 3-4 or 4-3)
LB-Rak,Kerrigan, and Riley(Rak and kerrigan could be looked at as DEs)
CBs-Amerson and Crawford (both guys have flashed and are young)
S-Thomas (I had high hopes before he was injured Maybe at least good depth

K-Forbath

If not listed above that means tell' em to pack. I am so glad we will actually have cap space this year.

[Skins4L]

Originally Posted by delusional optimist

Qbs-RG3 and Cousins( unless we get a real trade offer)
RBs-Morris,Helu,Royster and Young
TE-Jordan Reed( no need to keep Davis as at his best he is a lesser Reed)
WRs-Garcon and Hankerson
OT-Williams
OG-LeRibius( one more year to see if he can at least be a solid backup)
Cs-Montgomery and Lichtenstieger (one starts other is backup)

DL-Cofield,Jenkins,Neild, and Baker (these guys could fit 3-4 or 4-3)
LB-Rak,Kerrigan, and Riley(Rak and kerrigan could be looked at as DEs)
CBs-Amerson and Crawford (both guys have flashed and are young)
S-Thomas (I had high hopes before he was injured Maybe at least good depth

K-Forbath

If not listed above that means tell' em to pack. I am so glad we will actually have cap space this year.

i like both cbs but we cannot get away with them at this point. i didnt see what wed like to call consistency at all in fact neither impressed haslett enough to even start over wilson. need more help there or bring hall back. in fact.. keep hall snd bring in someone light with upside in. its a passing league too many beasts at wr in the league.

[delusional optimist]

Originally Posted by Skins4L

i like both cbs but we cannot get away with them at this point. i didnt see what wed like to call consistency at all in fact neither impressed haslett enough to even start over wilson. need more help there or bring hall back. in fact.. keep hall snd bring in someone light with upside in. its a passing league too many beasts at wr in the league.

I'm not saying either of those guys are legit starters but of the guys we have those are the only 2 i think will be back.If Hall is willing to return for around the minimum then that might be good but i think we will bring in multiple FA DBs (Byrd ,Talib ect.) and i'm not sure Hall wouldn't become a problem if he wasn't a starter.

I like Hall because he likes being a Redskin but the fact remains he gives up a ton of catches. Seems to lose interest sometimes.

[calia]

Originally Posted by delusional optimist

Qbs-RG3 and Cousins( unless we get a real trade offer)
RBs-Morris,Helu,Royster and Young
TE-Jordan Reed( no need to keep Davis as at his best he is a lesser Reed)
WRs-Garcon and Hankerson
OT-Williams
OG-LeRibius( one more year to see if he can at least be a solid backup)
Cs-Montgomery and Lichtenstieger (one starts other is backup)

DL-Cofield,Jenkins,Neild, and Baker (these guys could fit 3-4 or 4-3)
LB-Rak,Kerrigan, and Riley(Rak and kerrigan could be looked at as DEs)
CBs-Amerson and Crawford (both guys have flashed and are young)
S-Thomas (I had high hopes before he was injured Maybe at least good depth

K-Forbath

If not listed above that means tell' em to pack. I am so glad we will actually have cap space this year.

So you'd be looking at 19 additions to the team via the draft or free agency? That doesn't seem realistic to me at all, expecially given the relative lack of draft picks. I don't think we have the luxury of discarding quite so many players, and there are a few others (e.g., Robinson, Merriweather, Gumbs) that we will probably need to stick with or give more time.

[delusional optimist]

Originally Posted by calia

So you'd be looking at 19 additions to the team via the draft or free agency? That doesn't seem realistic to me at all, expecially given the relative lack of draft picks. I don't think we have the luxury of discarding quite so many players, and there are a few others (e.g., Robinson, Merriweather, Gumbs) that we will probably need to stick with or give more time.

For each player not on the list you save cap space that can be spent on another player. I did forget to add Robinson and Sundberg to the list. And a guy like Gumbs you bring to camp for a nothing contract and let him compete for a spot .If he earns a spot thats gravy but you don't count on it.You do the same with several guys that are cheap and already on board and again hope for the best but be realistic

Merriweather is not worth keeping. I wouldn't be surprised if last year was his last year in the NFL. He's a penalty machine.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by delusional optimist

Qbs-RG3 and Cousins( unless we get a real trade offer)
RBs-Morris,Helu,Royster and Young
TE-Jordan Reed( no need to keep Davis as at his best he is a lesser Reed)
WRs-Garcon and Hankerson
OT-Williams
OG-LeRibius( one more year to see if he can at least be a solid backup)
Cs-Montgomery and Lichtenstieger (one starts other is backup)

DL-Cofield,Jenkins,Neild, and Baker (these guys could fit 3-4 or 4-3)
LB-Rak,Kerrigan, and Riley(Rak and kerrigan could be looked at as DEs)
CBs-Amerson and Crawford (both guys have flashed and are young)
S-Thomas (I had high hopes before he was injured Maybe at least good depth

K-Forbath

If not listed above that means tell' em to pack. I am so glad we will actually have cap space this year.

I'm understanding the delusional part of your screen name now...

[delusional optimist]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

I'm understanding the delusional part of your screen name now...

Which part is delusional? The idea that these guys will be back or the idea that guys not on the list won't?....Or was that just a clever barb that you put little thought into?

Nah i get it. Thats what these forums are for. To be clear though let me explain my position. As a long time Skins fan i have watched us hang on to guys who were just good enough to hold on to a roster spot and keep us from searching for upgrades for far to long.

Here is and example. You have Ladell Betts. He's an OK backup to Portis so you kinda take RB off the shopping list so to speak.Then you go into the draft and select Devin Thomas and Malcomb Kelly (both currently out of the NFL) over Jammal Charles who is one of the top RBs in the NFL.

Example 2- Kedric Golston has been hanging around this team for at least 4 yrs to long. He doesn't break the bank but he does cost more than say a rookie FA...but does he produce more than what you may be able to get from a RFA. We have seen his upside and know it has come and gone but who knows what kind of upside comes with a young guy.

Point being there is no point in keeping guys around that have proven they are just good enough to maintain a spot on a team that loses. If you are not helping the team win what are you doing ? It would have been nice if we would have been developing a young DE over the past 3 yrs that might be something by now as apposed to dragging around Golston for 3.