Jay Gruden hired as head coach of the Redskins

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by saden1

Meh...at least its not a fcking Special Teams coordinator with no prior head coaching experience.

What's the over/under on Jon's tenure as Skins' HC?

Whatever it is I'll take the under since 0 is under anything.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

Whatever it is I'll take the under since 0 is under anything.

Lol, what about jay?

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by saden1

Meh...at least its not a fcking Special Teams coordinator with no prior head coaching experience.

What's the over/under on Jon's tenure as Skins' HC?

Only someone as persistently negative as you are would even be thinking of that right now.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Only someone as persistently negative as you are would even be thinking of that right now.

What should I be thinking? Enlighten me with your positivism.

14 years of ownership.
8 head coaches.
2 playoff win.
0 super bowls.
failure, price of admission.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by saden1

What should I be thinking? Enlighten me with your positivism.

14 years of ownership.
8 head coaches.
2 playoff win.
0 super bowls.
failure, price of admission.

Because it feels better to be positive than it does to be negative. It makes life better, in general. Who can say that we won't get it right this time, even it is just due to pure luck?

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by saden1

What should I be thinking? Enlighten me with your positivism.

14 years of ownership.
8 head coaches.
2 playoff win.
0 super bowls.
failure, price of admission.

So basically you're saying "we are due" for a strong, playoff filled, superbowl winning run? I like your way of thinking Saden, HTTmutherf*ckingR!

[irish]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

So basically you're saying "we are due" for a strong, playoff filled, superbowl winning run? I like your way of thinking Saden, HTTmutherf*ckingR!

Any future success this team has with DS as an owner, and I really have my doubts there will be any success with DS as the owner will be in spite of him not because of him.

Of owners who have been in the league at least 10 years only 4 owners are worse than DS. R. Wilson (Buf), R. McNair (Hou), B. Bidwell (AZ), and WC Ford (Det). That's some pretty sorry company.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by saden1

What should I be thinking? Enlighten me with your positivism.

14 years of ownership.
8 head coaches.
2 playoff win.
0 super bowls.
failure, price of admission.

Our resident pessimist is back!

[chrisl13]

MarkMaske ‏@MarkMaske 21m
LaMonte... "He had an existing relationship with McVay. That certainly played into it. He was intrigued by the talent of the quarterback.”
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Gruden's agent says he is intrigued by RG3. So there's goes that Kirk Cousins riff raff.

[Ruhskins]

LOL.

Jeff Darlington ‏@JeffDarlington 6m
Good luck ever topping this tweet, Twitter. RT @Dameshek: This is getting weird. The Browns just hired Mike Tirico's brother as head coach.

[Schneed10]

Honestly how much can we really blame Haslett. The fact that he was able to do what he did when we won the division in 2012 was nothing short of remarkable, he had no talent to work with. He's shown he can coach defense, $36 million in cap space should help him get some talent to work with.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Honestly how much can we really blame Haslett. The fact that he was able to do what he did when we won the division in 2012 was nothing short of remarkable, he had no talent to work with. He's shown he can coach defense, $36 million in cap space should help him get some talent to work with.

Overall his schemes were fine with me (with the exception of how he handles opposing TEs, WTF?!), it was the timing of his play-calls. I hope he at least learned some lessons because it always seemed he would have the least clutch call ever when we needed it the most.

Regardless of how our D works out next year, ALL I ASK is better third down defense. We seemed to be great on first and second only to fold on third no matter how far the down-and-distance.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Overall his schemes were fine with me (with the exception of how he handles opposing TEs, WTF?!), it was the timing of his play-calls. I hope he at least learned some lessons because it always seemed he would have the least clutch call ever when we needed it the most.

Regardless of how our D works out next year, ALL I ASK is better third down defense. We seemed to be great on first and second only to fold on third no matter how far the down-and-distance.

That least clutch call you're talking about, I think, was the product of having no safeties with any skill. Safety is the position that gives you flexibility to make blitz calls. If you have a safety with speed and range, he can cover the space needed to limit big gains in the event the QB beats the blitz.

We just didn't have that, AT ALL. So when Haslett did dial up a blitz he was really taking a risk that our safeties would give up the whole shebang. And in a lot of cases as a result, he had to play cover 2 and let the TE free up the seam. At least with a TE you don't get beat over the top for a TD.

He just had nothing to work with. He has a good attacking scheme and two good edge rushers. He desperately needs safeties, then he'll put together a decent enough defense.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Honestly how much can we really blame Haslett. The fact that he was able to do what he did when we won the division in 2012 was nothing short of remarkable, he had no talent to work with. He's shown he can coach defense, $36 million in cap space should help him get some talent to work with.

At times, the man looked like a genius with the blitzes he came up with. We also forced a lot of TOs (despite not being able to stop anyone).

There's no doubt if he were given a competitive roster, he could do well.

I'd really like to just reset the whole Shanahan era though, including the defense.

[irish]

[QUOTE=Schneed10;1054338]Honestly how much can we really blame Haslett. The fact that he was able to do what he did when we won the division in 2012 was nothing short of remarkable, he had no talent to work with. He's shown he can coach defense, $36 million in cap space should help h

I think he can be blamed as much as Shanny. His D gave up so many points so quick it would have been hard for any offense to keep up.