Jay Gruden hired as head coach of the Redskins

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Haslett is staying? Are you kidding me...... This wreaks of Danny trying to save a buck and throwing him onto Gruden

I think it reeks of Bruce Allen trying to save a Buc.

Basically this staff will be Bruce Allen's legacy, for good or bad, it is clear that Allen got who he wanted, and that DS is allowing him the freedom to pick his group.

I would hope that Gruden does get authority to choose his staff, but a radio announcer from ESPN earlier pointed out that even when he went to Cincy as OC he kept nearly all the same staff.

[irish]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I think it reeks of Bruce Allen trying to save a Buc.

Basically this staff will be Bruce Allen's legacy, for good or bad, it is clear that Allen got who he wanted, and that DS is allowing him the freedom to pick his group.

I would hope that Gruden does get authority to choose his staff, but a radio announcer from ESPN earlier pointed out that even when he went to Cincy as OC he kept nearly all the same staff.

DS does not allow anyone the freedom to pick anything when it comes to the Skins. He's a total control freak.

[Coff]

Originally Posted by irish

DS does not allow anyone the freedom to pick anything when it comes to the Skins. He's a total control freak.

I think he's shown over the past few years that he is more willing to defer to expert opinions.

[irish]

Originally Posted by Coff

I think he's shown over the past few years that he is more willing to defer to expert opinions.

Read the article in Sunday's WaPo and you will see that isnt true. If the experts agree with him then he goes with their opinion if not then he goes with his opinion. 2 examples cited in the article. He wanted to draft Malcom Kelly (the experts had big issues with his health) and the experts wanted Jordy Nelson. You know the rest. Shanny wanted Bulger but DS wanted McNabb who was a bigger more marketable name. Again, you know the rest.

It seems like DS's best PR move has been to get the public to think he's defered to the experts. He hasnt.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by irish

Read the article in Sunday's WaPo and you will see that isnt true. If the experts agree with him then he goes with their opinion if not then he goes with his opinion. 2 examples cited in the article. He wanted to draft Malcom Kelly (the experts had big issues with his health) and the experts wanted Jordy Nelson. You know the rest. Shanny wanted Bulger but DS wanted McNabb who was a bigger more marketable name. Again, you know the rest.

It seems like DS's best PR move has been to get the public to think he's defered to the experts. He hasnt.

Citing the WP for proof of DS being a bad owner is not really very useful. I am sure that, like every other owner in the league, he has pushed his ideas, but it is clear from Gibbs to Shanahan and now Allen, that he has been reducing the amount of hands on meddling that he has been doing. The Washington Post, or at least some of its writers, will never acknowledge DS doing anything other than being a petulant owner, but that doesn't seem to jive with most of the facts that are out there now.

[irish]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Citing the WP for proof of DS being a bad owner is not really very useful. I am sure that, like every other owner in the league, he has pushed his ideas, but it is clear from Gibbs to Shanahan and now Allen, that he has been reducing the amount of hands on meddling that he has been doing. The Washington Post, or at least some of its writers, will never acknowledge DS doing anything other than being a petulant owner, but that doesn't seem to jive with most of the facts that are out there now.

What facts are out there that can you produce?

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by irish

DS does not allow anyone the freedom to pick anything when it comes to the Skins. He's a total control freak.

serious statement? I think DS has shown he gives up control to the people he trusts, ie Gibbs, Cerrato, Shanahan, now Allen. The difference with Allen, I hope, is that DS is now truly one step removed from the football operations. If DS doesn't like the show put on he fires Allen, puts a new GM in place and lets that GM run the football operations. With Gibbs/Cerrato/Shanahan, when the time came to can the coach (or the coach left in Gibbs case) DS was back picking the next coach. There is a maturation of DS at work, and I think this is a positive step in the direction of getting the Skins to be a functional (not dysfunctional) franchise. That doesn't mean Gruden will be the next great coach, but it does mean DS is moving beyond the fan/owner/gm stage to an owner/spectator/signthecheck stage, and that's a good thing.

[jamf]

With McVay as OC, will Cooley try to make a comeback?

Normally I'm all for getting younger and faster players but we don't have anyone at TE and Gruden runs a two TE system.

Reed is talented but I don't think anyone can expect him to play more than 10 games next year.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by jamf

With McVay as OC, will Cooley try to make a comeback?

Normally I'm all for getting younger and faster players but we don't have anyone at TE and Gruden runs a two TE system.

Reed is talented but I don't think anyone can expect him to play more than 10 games next year.

1. He had a concussion. That can happen to anyone and coming back is a fight against the doctors and the league office.

2. He was a rookie.

3. He didn't blow a knee or break anything, he got bumped on the head.

4. The season was lost, he was shut down like Griffin to save them for next year.

5. Paulsen is a decent backup.

[jamf]

Originally Posted by Monkeydad

1. He had a concussion. That can happen to anyone and coming back is a fight against the doctors and the league office.

2. He was a rookie.

3. He didn't blow a knee or break anything, he got bumped on the head.

4. The season was lost, he was shut down like Griffin to save them for next year.

5. Paulsen is a decent backup.

1. He missed games with a bruised thigh and other injuries.

2. He was a rookie so we have no proven history with him other than getting injured.

3. True but he doesn't play dinged up and every player gets dinged up. You can't have a part time TE as your go to guy. You have to find a way to play.

4. can't argue with this.

5. He is but this will be a two TE system and I wouldn't want Paulsen to start. He is a horrible blocker and too slow to get downfield.

I wonder what is going to happen with the interior Oline.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by jamf

1. He missed games with a bruised thigh and other injuries.

2. He was a rookie so we have no proven history with him other than getting injured.

3. True but he doesn't play dinged up and every player gets dinged up. You can't have a part time te as your go to guy. You have to find a way to play.

4. Can't argue with this.

5. He is but this will be a two te system and i wouldn't want paulsen to start. He is a horrible blocker and too slow to get downfield.

i wonder what is going to happen with the interior oline.

walk the plank!

[hutch17]

Originally Posted by jamf

With McVay as OC, will Cooley try to make a comeback?

Normally I'm all for getting younger and faster players but we don't have anyone at TE and Gruden runs a two TE system.

Reed is talented but I don't think anyone can expect him to play more than 10 games next year.

Cooley for TE coach