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Old 03-01-2014, 07:10 PM   #1
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if he is even asking 11mil per, then he can go kick rocks. He just isn't worth that much, and if given the amount of snaps, I would say that his performance and production could be nearly matched at substancially less. The beautiful point is that we already have his replacement on the team! For over 10.5 mil per, he should go. Under, I think we could afford to keep him.
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Old 03-01-2014, 07:22 PM   #2
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if he is even asking 11mil per, then he can go kick rocks. He just isn't worth that much, and if given the amount of snaps, I would say that his performance and production could be nearly matched at substancially less. The beautiful point is that we already have his replacement on the team! For over 10.5 mil per, he should go. Under, I think we could afford to keep him.
If he got around 15 sacks a year, would you say he's worth 11 million?

Orakpo and Kerrigan rushed the QB a lot less than most 3-4 OLBs around the league, and Tandler made the point that if Orakpo rushed as much as Mario Williams, he would've had 17 sacks. What most people don't realize is that our OLBs just didn't get as many sack opportunities as any other starting OLBs.

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Old 03-01-2014, 07:45 PM   #3
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If he got around 15 sacks a year, would you say he's worth 11 million?

Orakpo and Kerrigan rushed the QB a lot less than most 3-4 OLBs around the league, and Tandler made the point that if Orakpo rushed as much as Mario Williams, he would've had 17 sacks. What most people don't realize is that our OLBs just didn't get as many sack opportunities as any other starting OLBs.

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I say no...most of those guys don't get paid by their teams look at Peppers and Williams both went into FA and got paid by other teams. Even if was let loose all he has is one pass rush move...11-12 is too much for an OLB.
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Old 03-01-2014, 07:27 PM   #4
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that said, it just doesnt seem like he shows up for NFCEast games, makes game breaking plays, or has a high motor 100% of the time. It also seems like he is a below average defender in space, and has limited pass rushing moves? Above average player? No doubt. Elite player? not close.
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Old 03-01-2014, 09:14 PM   #5
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that said, it just doesnt seem like he shows up for NFCEast games, makes game breaking plays, or has a high motor 100% of the time. It also seems like he is a below average defender in space, and has limited pass rushing moves? Above average player? No doubt. Elite player? not close.
very well said

Another factor should be resigning Trent in 2 years, and RGIII in 3 years. The two could cost $40 million per year.

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Old 03-01-2014, 08:24 PM   #6
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I understand what you two are saying, but I think lots of sacks is still lots of sacks, regardless whether or not they came against NFC East teams, and regardless what kind of move he used to get there. Paying Orakpo 12 million or over is probably too much, but 11 is very reasonable, IMO, considering what kind of DL and scheme he's been rushing with.

Another thing: with the NFL evolving into a more pass happy affair, pass rushers are more valuable than in past years, and will continue to gain value.
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I understand what you two are saying, but I think lots of sacks is still lots of sacks, regardless whether or not they came against NFC East teams, and regardless what kind of move he used to get there. Paying Orakpo 12 million or over is probably too much, but 11 is very reasonable, IMO, considering what kind of DL and scheme he's been rushing with.

Another thing: with the NFL evolving into a more pass happy affair, pass rushers are more valuable than in past years, and will continue to gain value.
I would agree if we were one piece away on D, but we need a lot and to tie up that much money for him over a long period time will come back to haunt us. We are the Redskins so it's a lose lose situation for us, we sign him to what he wants and he is same guy we have seen and if we let him go he becomes a premiere pass rusher.
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Old 03-01-2014, 09:26 PM   #8
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$13MM could get us a top FA safety and a top FA OL or four mid-tier FA's.

We need a lot of help. So, if the Skins decide to pass on paying Orakpo and instead sign 2-4 other good players, I'm not going to complain.
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Holy fucking christ. Fans are fucking moronic. I just had a Skins fan say that Orakpo was good in coverage because PFF had him the #2 rated OLB in coverage.
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Old 03-02-2014, 10:50 AM   #10
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Holy fucking christ. Fans are fucking moronic. I just had a Skins fan say that Orakpo was good in coverage because PFF had him the #2 rated OLB in coverage.
Well he's certainly not a bum either.
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Should I eviscerate the Redskins now on this Orakpo thing, or wait for the season? Your call, Warpath.
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Should I eviscerate the Redskins now on this Orakpo thing, or wait for the season? Your call, Warpath.
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Should I eviscerate the Redskins now on this Orakpo thing, or wait for the season? Your call, Warpath.

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Old 03-01-2014, 10:06 PM   #14
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I like Rak but he never shows up when we play the NFC East. His 1 pass rush moved gets stoned or pushed behind the QB. I would take Clay Matthews or Aldon Smith any day over Rak. If his price tag is reasonable then resign him if not then so be it. Good Luck Brian thanks for your service Brah.
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the fact that they are not 100% behind signing Rak may not be a good thing for Rak fans here
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