Current 2014 Free Agents

[skinsfanthru&thru]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

Yeah.....No

Agree to disagree. In a heartbeat I'd take either of those two and 2-3 other starters for the money they are looking at paying Orakpo.

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by donofriose

Rob Jackson... the man who gets suspended coming off his best season and who has less career sacks than Orakpo had last season.

Jackson has more INTs though. Looking at stats for Orakpo and Jackson, Rak's tackling numbers are just as impressive as his sacks, to me. But so much depends on how each player was used to drop back or not, and that Rak was the starter not Jackson.

As far as the suspension: Jackson was suspended on March 20 after he violated the league’s policy on substances of abuse. He said he took a medication containing codeine that was not prescribed to him to deal with a toothache near the end of last season. Jackson's been with us awhile with no other incidents, right? I believe he'll be more like Trent Williams, not Fred Davis, and has found a niche in our 3-4 where we can let Rak go if needed, and upgrade other positions.

[Lotus]

Would signing D.Ware be any cheaper than signing Rak?

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Would signing D.Ware be any cheaper than signing Rak?

SS has to be joking or Vinny hijacked his brain or SS is in a Kush Coma. Ware is done and is getting something like 15 mil per. I dont want that problem.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

If someone can tell me who we are replacing Rak with, then I would be more inclined to let him walk.

No real good options

[Irrefutable]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

No real good options

the real problem is depending on 1 or 2 players to pressure the QB. If you can create some pressure from the front 3, and all the LBs, then you would not need to pay 1 player $$$$$$$

in a good 3-4 all the LBs are a threat to sack the QB


or switch to a 4-3

[whistler]

Originally Posted by Irrefutable

the real problem is depending on 1 or 2 players to pressure the QB. If you can create some pressure from the front 3, and all the LBs, then you would not need to pay 1 player $$$$$$$

in a good 3-4 all the LBs are a threat to sack the QB


or switch to a 4-3

They're not a good 3-4, the nickel 4-3 isn't good either. No pressure when needed, except for the Raider game.

[CRedskinsRule]

Wow. Browns tagged Mack! LT money for a center

[CRedskinsRule]

Schefter saying transition tag for Mack. That makes more sense.

[Chico23231]

Im surprised the Rak tagging would cause such dissention.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Im surprised the Rak tagging would cause such dissention.

LOL ... not me. This crowd got tons o' crazy to go around.

- We need to develop our own players.
- Don't overpay anyone, but create roster spots that need to be filled by untested rookies or UFA's.
- Throw money at a roster spot of need (Byrd), but don't resign your own very good players at the most expensive position on the D (pass-rusher) if it is at a premium.
- In a year where D has many holes to fill, take a risk that you can fill its most important position with rookies or cheap UFA's.

In light of everything we need to accomplish through the draft and the UFA process, what he brings to the table, the position he plays and the regular demand for such players in free agency, and the opinion his teammates have of him, tagging Rak seemed like a no-brainer to me.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Im surprised the Rak tagging would cause such dissention.

You have not seen enough offseasons on the Warpath.

[JoeRedskin]

I am not afraid Rak signs somewhere else, I would bet a solid $100 that he would. He is the player at whom someone will throw a bucket of money. If they don't tag him, consider him gone - which is fine if you have a back-up plan. Otherwise, you are just creating more problems. I have yet to see a legitimate back up plan that (1) is guaranteeing equal or better production; or (2) has any cost analysis that explains why a tag of Rak will create salary cap problems immediately or in the future.

Don't overpay?! We are filling the position with a UFA or Rak (a prospective UFA). Given the nature of free agency, and to guarantee equal or better production from the spot, we are either overpaying Rak a little OR overpaying someone else (or several someones else) a lot.

You think no one is going to throw buckets at Rak. Fine, you may be right - BUT, if you don't tag him and then EXPECT him to come back THAT is weak and stupid if you don't have a back-up plan. Either the plan is to fill ROLB with a premier UFA or take a risk on a cheap alternative. Tell me your plan to fill this spot and get a legitimate 10 sack production from it at a cost less than 11M/year. Very simply, we will be overpaying an import OR taking a risk that Rak's production can be replaced on the cheap.

The question is not whether someone else will pay him, it's whether or not we can guarantee a replacement that will equal the production from ROLB position with a less expensive option. If we cannot guarrantee equal or better production for less, than you have just created one more hole on a defense that has other more pressing needs AND - as an added detriment - increased the leverage of Riley and R.Jax. Unless, of course, you think we can rebuild the entire back 8 from UFA's and draft picks.

With Rak tagged, we now have to only replace/retain our ILB's rather than 3/4's of our entire LB corp.

[MTK]

A couple of my buddies who are fans of other teams look at me like I have 3 heads when I tell them that some Skins fans don't think franchising Rak was a good idea.

[Chico23231]

Chargers released CB Derek Cox.
Cox inked a four-year, $20 million contract on the second day of free agency last year and received $10.25 million guaranteed for one season of utterly mediocre play. The Chargers save $4.25 million in cash but are eating $3.9 million in dead money against the cap. The move clears just $1.65 million in cap space. Cox was benched multiple times last season. He was deemed expendable for a team that really needs corner help. Cox is still just 27 years old.

This is a guy getting talk last year as a CB we were interested in...