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[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Yes, it is normal for older vets to make younger players pay for various things. The part where Martin was not included on the trip might be abnormal.

"Every year, as tradition, the offensive line goes on a big Vegas trip. Everything is paid for in advance, from hotels to a private jet to show tickets. Martin originally verbally committed to the trip, then later backed out after everything was booked. Now, if you can’t go because of an emergency then it’s okay, but to say you’re going and then decide you don’t want to spend the money later? Everything was paid for, and then when it was time to pay up he didn’t want to go anymore. You don’t do that to your brothers. The veterans who paid for it, including Incognito and others, asked for Martin’s share, and he gave it to them. End of story."

Richie Incognito never bullied Jonathan Martin, Lydon Murtha says | The MMQB with Peter King

[itvnetop]

Grilliams Rams' D-Coordinator.

[Chico23231]

Report to the Commissioner of the National Football League

I gotta admit, Ive laughed out loud several times at work reading this report. The insults about "Jmart" sister while extremely tasteless, are kinda funny. This is the most meathead-like atmosphere in Miami and quite hilarioius. The fine system notebook is funny as well. Its typical frat house humor, quite immature

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Report to the Commissioner of the National Football League

I gotta admit, Ive laughed out loud several times at work reading this report. The insults about "Jmart" sister while extremely tasteless, are kinda funny. This is the most meathead-like atmosphere in Miami and quite hilarioius. The fine system notebook is funny as well. Its typical frat house humor, quite immature

So much for Incognito's claim that the truth would bury Martin. If anything, it's made Richie look even worse. What a dumbass. Not surprising though considering his entire career even dating back to college.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

So much for Incognito's claim that the truth would bury Martin. If anything, it's made Richie look even worse. What a dumbass. Not surprising though considering his entire career even dating back to college.

Yeah, Its embarressing stuff for sure. Incognito is an idiot, someone you dont want on your team. Amazing this is the social norm in that lockerroom. But thats what happened, this behavior became the norm.

Not believing for one second that no one in the organization or the rest of the team didnt hear or know of this behavior. Also not believing the NFL didnt review and make suggestions of the report, delaying it.

[Chico23231]

So are the Dolphins going to hold Pouncey and Turner accountable as well?

[Chico23231]

The big line crosser for me in the report is the racial stuff by Incognito. That should be off limits all the time. But somehow others in the locker room accepted it as normal, that is too much imo. I dont see how just Martin was the only one offended.

[SirLK26]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

The big line crosser for me in the report is the racial stuff by Incognito. That should be off limits all the time. But somehow others in the locker room accepted it as normal, that is too much imo. I dont see how just Martin was the only one offended.

It's easy to not be offended if you don't want to be. Martin was probably more susceptible, though, because he was bullied in middle school; and Incognito's bullying brought back the depression he had back then.

Also, NFL players probably have thicker skin than the rest of the population, because they're in this environment from the time they start playing high school football.

Now that we know the true story, I would have no reservations about signing Martin. He would be a huge upgrade over Polumbus.

[GTripp0012]

The Dolphins locker room appears to be unique only in its stupidity, but this is not something we weren't aware of back in October.

[Chico23231]

I dont want either one of these guys on the team.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I dont want either one of these guys on the team.

This. Never really cared for Incognito, but I don't want Martin on my team either. We don't need another scenario like that on our team.

[T.O.Killa]

Apparently this guy knows nothing. Look at this dumbass article. He say we need bigger lineman, Adam Gettis is going to be our new RT. This guy apparently writes articles by seat of his pants.

Offseason Forecast: Washington Redskins - NFL.com

» OT Tyler Polumbus: Polumbus has been a turnstile at right tackle, and is perhaps the weakest link on the team. The Redskins like 2012 fifth-round pick Adam Gettis, and he could slide into Polumbus' spot if they don't find someone in free agency.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

Apparently this guy knows nothing. Look at this dumbass article. He say we need bigger lineman, Adam Gettis is going to be our new RT. This guy apparently writes articles by seat of his pants.

Offseason Forecast: Washington Redskins - NFL.com

A great example of why many articles/columns from national writers are awful. It's almost like they look at the roster and randomly plug in names wherever they have blank space.

[NYCskinfan82]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

A great example of why many articles/columns from national writers are awful. It's almost like they look at the roster and randomly plug in names wherever they have blank space.

I know right, when we all know it's LeRibeus who will be are new starting RT.

[Lotus]

Thanks guys for the good info on the Vegas vacation.