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[NC_Skins]

Source: Eagles want at least 3rd-round pick for DeSean Jackson | Comcast SportsNet Philadelphia

Guess they are getting real tired of DJ's shit.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Source: Eagles want at least 3rd-round pick for DeSean Jackson | Comcast SportsNet Philadelphia

Guess they are getting real tired of DJ's shit.

If they were real tired, they would cut him.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Source: Eagles want at least 3rd-round pick for DeSean Jackson | Comcast SportsNet Philadelphia

Guess they are getting real tired of DJ's shit.

Sub-headline: Eagle Fans Demand 5 First Round Picks.

[ICantGoAnother20yrsOfCrap]

Any team giving Philly more than a late round draft pick is insane. He's got a pretty big contract, I think it's 10M this yr and he's inconsistent as f*ck. He'll disappear for entire games. Sure he's a big play threat but that's about it. I know he was productive last year but.....he's got an attitude problem, which is probably why Philly is shopping him, and he constantly makes comments about how he's unsatisfied with his contract. His MO on that is to quit, 2 yrs ago. Maybe makes sense for a team that has all the pieces in place and is looking for one more piece to put them over the hump but he's not a fit for a team looking for a #1, maybe even #2. Very glad the Skins do have the money to even think about him.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

If they were real tired, they would cut him.

Well that would just be dumb. Someone will give up a third rounder for him and that isnt asking alot imo.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Well that would just be dumb. Someone will give up a third rounder for him and that isnt asking alot imo.

Unless he renegotiates his deal, that's a third rounder AND $10.25 mil in salary this year and it goes up next year. He's never been one to take LESS money so good luck with getting him to sign off on that now.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

Unless he renegotiates his deal, that's a third rounder AND $10.25 mil in salary this year and it goes up next year. He's never been one to take LESS money so good luck with getting him to sign off on that now.

He did have a monster year. If there is a team out there that thinks he will put them over the top in terms of a championship they will pay. I hope it is someone from the AFC. Wouldnt mind him not being on the field next year when we play the birds.

[Paintrain]

Proposed rule changes per PFT:
Rule change proposals:

1. Move the kickoff to the 40-yard line.

2. Expand instant replay to include personal foul penalties.

3. Eliminate overtime in the preseason.

4. Extend the goal posts an additional five feet above the cross bar.

5. Move the line of scrimmage for one-point extra point kicks to the defensive team’s 25-yard line. Two-point conversion attempts would still be snapped from the 2-yard line.

6. Put six cameras on all boundary lines — sideline, goal line, end line, to guarantee coverage for replay reviews.

7. Permit a coach to challenge any official’s decision, except scoring plays which are automatically reviewed.

8. Protect players from getting the sides of their legs rolled up on — the rule already says a blocker can’t hit an opponent in the back of the legs, this proposal will add “or side” to the rule.

9. Allow the referee to consult with members of the NFL officiating department during replay reviews. The referee would be able to speak with the command center in New York to help in reviewing a play.

10. Making the recovery of a loose ball in the field of play reviewable. (This is referred to as the NaVorro Bowman rule, after a controversial call in the NFC Championship Game.)

11. Don’t stop the clock on a sack.

12. Modify pass interference so that it can be called within one yard of the line of scrimmage.

13. Enforce defensive fouls behind the line of scrimmage from the previous spot, rather than from the end of the run or from the spot of the foul.

Bylaw proposals:

1. Raise the number of active players on game day from 46 to 49 for regular-season games played on a day other than Sunday or Monday, excluding Week One.

2. Raise the practice squad limit from eight players to 10 players.

3. Permit clubs to trade players prior to the start of the league year.

4. Eliminate the cut-down to 75 players during training camp and instead just have one cut-down from 90 players to 53 players.

5. Permit more than one player to return to the active list from injured reserve so that any player on injured reserve could return after six weeks.

6. Permit each club to time and test up to 10 draft-eligible players at its facility, and allow any club that wishes to attend timing and testing at another team’s facility.

7. Adjust the time of the roster reduction from 53 after the fourth preseason game from 6 p.m. Eastern to 4 p.m. Eastern. All teams would have to have their list of final cuts in by 4 p.m.

Resolution proposal:

1. Permit a home team with a retractable roof to open or close its roof at halftime, instead of having to determine at the start of the game whether it is open or closed.

[Mechanix544]

Most of those rule changes suck, but a couple are common sense like the personal foul review, the roll up leg ban, every official action reviewable, and the cameras on the lines . The bylaws I could care less about except the trading prior to the year beginning. I think a team should be able to trade anyone whenever they want.

Seriously, if all the officials phone in to some headquarters for assistance on a call, why the hell are the guys on the field (zebras) even paid? Just have a fukkin computer call the game then............

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Mechanix544

Most of those rule changes suck, but a couple are common sense like the personal foul review, the roll up leg ban, every official action reviewable, and the cameras on the lines . The bylaws I could care less about except the trading prior to the year beginning. I think a team should be able to trade anyone whenever they want.

Seriously, if all the officials phone in to some headquarters for assistance on a call, why the hell are the guys on the field (zebras) even paid? Just have a fukkin computer call the game then............

Honestly if it's anything like the NHL where all calls get reviewed in the war room in Toronto I'm down for it. If a call is reviewed it gets sent to the war room, where they have HDTV's and pretty much every available camera angle on site. The difference in the amount of time it takes to review the call is minimal too. It might even save the NFL some time, which as we all know is critical to the NFL experience. Way too often do we see a ref go under the hood and then take eternity to come back out.

As for the rest of the changes, they all look good to me, except for the 40 yard line kickoff idea (seriously, the kickoff will eventually be eliminated at this rate) and the PAT attempt change. I really like the cameras rule though, in this day and age the NFL shouldn't have any excuse for not getting a review right, much less "we didn't have the proper angle."

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Mechanix544

Most of those rule changes suck, but a couple are common sense like the personal foul review, the roll up leg ban, every official action reviewable, and the cameras on the lines . The bylaws I could care less about except the trading prior to the year beginning. I think a team should be able to trade anyone whenever they want.

Seriously, if all the officials phone in to some headquarters for assistance on a call, why the hell are the guys on the field (zebras) even paid? Just have a fukkin computer call the game then............

I like the call to HQ. Hopefully it would mean more uniform enforcement of the rules.

[That Guy]

i actually like basically all the proposed changes.

[MTK]

Yeah the NHL review system has done pretty well. The NFL is probably heading that way.

[skinsfan69]

Why would they kick the ball off from the 40? So stupid. Just put the ball on the 20 and eliminate kickoffs all together. That one really makes no sense what so ever.

Also pass interference needs to be a 15 yard penalty, like college. The spot foul just makes it like a video game. The NFL can learn a lot from college.

The games are already too long. If they allow coaches to basically challenge everything then the games will be 5 hours long.

[skinsfanthru&thru]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Why would they kick the ball off from the 40? So stupid. Just put the ball on the 20 and eliminate kickoffs all together. That one really makes no sense what so ever.

Also pass interference needs to be a 15 yard penalty, like college. The spot foul just makes it like a video game. The NFL can learn a lot from college.

The games are already too long. If they allow coaches to basically challenge everything then the games will be 5 hours long.

I personally think they need to look at intensifying the penalty for offensive pass interference since defensive pass interference is a spot foul and can completely change field position. I'd like to see it be a loss of down at the least as well as a 15 yard penalty. That or make defensive pass interference be like it is in college.