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[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Those who sitting around looking for proof of god have already failed. The fact you can sit, see and consciousnessly think is the proof.

Uhh...you can say that about anything. Proof of Bigfoot. Spiderman. Lochness Monster. Etc....

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Uhh...you can say that about anything. Proof of Bigfoot. Spiderman. Lochness Monster. Etc....

Well, if we had tangible proof of Bigfoot, Spiderman or the Loch Ness Monster sitting somewhere contemplating the existence of God, we would have proof their existence.

While I would not phrase it the way he did nor do I entirely agree with the sentiment, I think the critique off base. As I understand Chico's statement, it is "Our existence and ability to have conscience thought is proof of a being beyond our comprehension being the cause of our creation". I don't think it is the "If I can think of it, it exists" argument you seem to be criticizing. [Chico, if I misstate your assertion I apologize].

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Well, if we had tangible proof of Bigfoot, Spiderman or the Loch Ness Monster sitting somewhere contemplating the existence of God, we would have proof their existence.

While I would not phrase it the way he did nor do I entirely agree with the sentiment, I think the critique off base. As I understand Chico's statement, it is "Our existence and ability to have conscience thought is proof of a being beyond our comprehension being the cause of our creation". I don't think it is the "If I can think of it, it exists" argument you seem to be criticizing. [Chico, if I misstate your assertion I apologize].

Yeah you sum it up pretty well.

While Im not stupid to sit here and argue against science and evolution which I do agree with alot of, I would say it doesnt explain it all.

[RedskinRat]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Yeah you sum it up pretty well.

While Im not stupid to sit here and argue against science and evolution which I do agree with alot of, I would say it doesnt explain it all.

Science is getting us there, religion is holding us back.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by RedskinRat

Science is getting us there, religion is holding us back.

What? Attendance at church cutting into scientists lab time? Nipping into the communal wine instead of seeking proof of the multiverse? Ninja deacons sneaking into the large Haldron Collider and peeing on the quarks??

Damn it religion! Stop messing with scientists heads - they don't have time to think outside the box.