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[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Yeah, because it is impossible for Obama to violate the Constitution in one situation but protect it in a completely different situation. How hilarious.

Like enforcing immigration laws? Thanks for making my argument for me.

Originally Posted by Lotus

Actually it did not take two to tango.

Some (not all) Capital Hill Republicans signed a letter in August which described their unilateral plan to shutdown the government if needed. Not only was there a unilateral plan, they put it in writing. Read more here;
Where the G.O.P.'s Suicide Caucus Lives : The New Yorker

I'm not sure how Obama can be blamed for someone else's written document.

All your link is saying the Republicans decided to defund Obamacare, knowing the Democrats could not accept the budget without it, resulting in the government shutting down. And the article repeatedly calling the Republicans "suicide caucus".

Originally Posted by Lotus

Moreover, your line about how Obama cared less about the shutdown than he did about Obamacare misses a fundamental Constitutional point: The ACA is a law and the President is Constitutionally required to enact and defend laws. Put differently, even if Bush had been in the White House, he would have been Constitutionally required to endure the shutdown rather than scrapping the ACA.

Congress has the power of the purse strings. They can defund lots of things "written into law" (military spending, highway and transportation, etc.). Besides the Obamacare regulations on insurance companies and healthcare plans are law, but not the $ amount Congress spends, so I think you're confusing what is law and what isn't.

Originally Posted by Lotus

But since we are blaming Obama for someone else's document and for defending the Constitution, I'll offer this: (snip "DON'T BLAME OBAMA PIC")

Blaming Obama for someone opposing him? WTF are you on about?

This pic's just as accurate as the ones blaming Republicans for the shutdown.




The real issue is what both parties passed in Congress as a result of the "shutdown". But hey, enough people think they're getting free unlimited healthcare, and let's blame Republicans not Obama for everything, so who cares!

[Giantone]

HG28,You say in one sentence that "Congress controls the purse strings" and then you say Obama starves Granma's and Vets , again there is that Twilight music .

Twilight Zone Opening THEME MUSIC 1962 Rod...

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by Giantone

HG28,You say in one sentence that "Congress controls the purse strings" and then you say Obama starves Granma's and Vets , again there is that Twilight music .



Twilight Zone Opening THEME MUSIC 1962 Rod Serling - YouTube

Ever hear of a veto? Checks and balances? No, both sides depict themselves as steadfast (never blinked!) and the other side as stubborn (suicide!) doing the same tactic. When this results in a problem (the possibility of defaulting, not the "shutdown" sideshow itself), it's both sides fault for not swerving when playing chicken.

But I realize I'm talking over your head. (5th grade level).

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by HailGreen28

Ever hear of a veto? Checks and balances? No, both sides depict themselves as steadfast (never blinked!) and the other side as stubborn (suicide!) doing the same tactic. When this results in a problem (the possibility of defaulting, not the "shutdown" sideshow itself), it's both sides fault for not swerving when playing chicken.

But I realize I'm talking over your head. (5th grade level).

Again you talk out of your ass , you say it's both sides fault ,yet you blame Obama and no one on the "other side "???try again .

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Again you talk out of your ass , you say it's both sides fault ,yet you blame Obama and no one on the "other side "???try again .

It's not my fault, if you can't remember it's the Republican and Democratic Party "at odds"* with each other. Anybody with a third grade reading level would know what I mean.


For certain values of "at odds".

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by HailGreen28

It's not my fault, if you can't remember it's the Republican and Democratic Party "at odds"* with each other. Anybody with a third grade reading level would know what I mean.


For certain values of "at odds".

key the Twilight zone music .


“He may look like an idiot and talk like an idiot but don't let that fool you. He really is an idiot.”
― Groucho Marx

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by HailGreen28

It's not my fault,.

Yes it is , you got caught ......again .

[RedskinRat]

Originally Posted by HailGreen28

....it's both sides fault for not swerving when playing chicken.

Originally Posted by Giantone

Again you talk out of your ass , you say it's both sides fault ,yet you blame Obama and no one on the "other side "???try again

Do you need HG28 to draw you a map? Should he name each offending MoC or Politician screwing things up? This POTUS has proven to be worthless, he's supposed to heard kittens and get shit sorted. He's divisive and inept, here and abroad.

Maybe the reason you're hearing the Twilight Zone theme so much is that it's where you live?

[Giantone]

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[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Giantone

God or no-God are not the only two choices. One may be a monist, in which one conceives of a sacred realm which is not a God. As such, monism allows for sacred creation, order, etc., without ever appealing to a God concept. With monism one may have atheist religion.

For an example of monism, see The Force in Star Wars: a sacred reality which is capable of creation but is not a God.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Lotus

. With monism one may have atheist religion.
.

Now you're just starting trouble , you know RR is going to get you ,hell or high water !

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Now you're just starting trouble , you know RR is going to get you ,hell or high water !

I see no reason for trouble. The list of atheist religions is long. This list includes, but is not limited to:

Philosophical Daoism
Indian Buddhism
Advaita Vedanta Hinduism
traditional Sioux metaphysics
Ojibwa metaphysics

Anyone who attacks or supports religion solely on the concept of God misses this fact that there are many atheist religions.

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