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Old 04-27-2004, 11:02 PM   #1
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This statement is of course in light of the fact that it's his second offense. Obviously mistakes can be made but you have to demonstrate that you will not do it again. Getting busted a second time after such a heinous act is unbelievable.
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Old 04-27-2004, 11:03 PM   #2
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I agree. What, this guy can't afford a car service? Nobody in his entourage can stay sober?
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Old 04-27-2004, 11:29 PM   #3
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That kinda reminds me, does any body remember what happened to the Cowboy player who ran down 3 people last year?
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Old 04-27-2004, 11:37 PM   #4
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First of all, Leonard Little is not yet guilty of his second DWI. Please repeat after me:

Innocent until proven guilty in a court of law...

Now, IF he is found guilty of DWI on this occasion after his previous DWI that resulted in the death of another human being, then he should be banned from the NFL permanently and sentenced to whatever the maximum penalty that the law allows in the jurisdiction where he commited this violation.

Oh, by the way, it does not matter what his blood alchohol level was. If he is convicted of DWI, there will have to be convincing evidence introduced to show that he was over the legal limit in that area.

But, please reserve some measure of "presumption of innocence" at this point.
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Old 04-27-2004, 11:42 PM   #5
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sportscrumudgeon, it's like you're in tune with Law & Order or something. Ok, you are right, if he is found GUILTY then ban him. it's hard to give the benefit of the doubt to a guy who already killed someone but you are definitely correct.
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Old 04-28-2004, 12:19 AM   #6
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Old 04-28-2004, 12:45 AM   #7
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The guy has a problem. He needs to get some kind of rehab going. Once can be a tragic accident, bad circumstance, but a second is a crime (if he's found guilty). Nobody wins in this case.
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Old 04-28-2004, 10:33 AM   #8
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon
First of all, Leonard Little is not yet guilty of his second DWI. Please repeat after me:
Innocent until proven guilty in a court of law...
Now, IF he is found guilty of DWI on this occasion after his previous DWI that resulted in the death of another human being, then he should be banned from the NFL permanently and sentenced to whatever the maximum penalty that the law allows in the jurisdiction where he commited this violation.
Oh, by the way, it does not matter what his blood alchohol level was. If he is convicted of DWI, there will have to be convincing evidence introduced to show that he was over the legal limit in that area.
But, please reserve some measure of "presumption of innocence" at this point.
Good point about presumption of innocence. Mr. Little could be found not guilty on a technicality. For example if the chain of custody on evidence like blood from a blood test to determine his sobriety was broken. Or if he was not read his rights when he was arrested. A good lawyer can get him off if one mistake was made and you know he will have the best representation money can buy. I remember Bruce Smith was found not guilty in VA beach several years ago.
However it would have to be a technicality to get him off. I know very little about Mr. Little's arrest. I read he was pulled over for speeding, at which point the officer determined he was under the influence. The fact he was initially pulled over for speeding will prevent his lawyer from claiming he was needlessly pulled over.
Mr. Little either failed a breath test, blood test or refused to submit to one of these tests.
Either way it does not look good unless the police made a mistake.
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Old 05-11-2004, 01:04 AM   #9
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Leonard

I was one of Leonards roomates at UT and continue to stay in touch with him. I usually go to his house about twice a year and have a good relationship with him. I really done understand how he could have done this. When I heard this I couldn't and still cant believe he did this. When we were in school he was such a great guy. He was such a leader and never would drink or smoke weed like most other athletes. He never wanted to take a chance on hurting his career and setting a bad example. I can honestly say when he was involved in his first accident in st louis I know he was devistated as he should have been, what he did was very stupid and cost someone their life. I am going to say something that is going to sound stupid but this guy is one of those guys that never drinks, it was his birthday and his fellow linebackers took him out and got him trashed, he didnt know how to respond because the guy never drinks and made the mistake of his life. After that happened he seemed to be a different person, when we drove up to see him he would call numerous times before we arrived to make sure nothing had happened. In this last year I really thought that things were no different until I heard he had gotten a DUI. I still live in Knoxville and I talk with him about every 3 months or so. I was amazed to hear this! I can not believe he did something this unthoughtful. He could have easily have killed someone else and I know he knows that. I love this guy like a brother but its soo hard to see him make this mistake. I actually think the best thing that could happen to him would be for him to be banned from football permantly. He needs to be humbled.
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Old 04-27-2004, 11:42 PM   #10
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this is sad and pathetic. not to pass blame but where r his friends and family trying to give him some reinforcement against his obvious drinking problem. he should have his license revoked for atleast 2-3 years, mandatory counciling, a severe fine, several hundred hours of community service, and possibly even some jail time especially if this violated his probation. he'll be suspended from the league w/o pay for a full season by the nfl, possibly longer, during which time he should do whatever it takes to fix his life. u would think the horrible tragedy 5 years ago would have steered him completely away from alcohol, but all i can say is thank goodness no one was hurt this time.
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