The Law - Oddities and Facts

[CRedskinsRule]

It's scary how easily people like G1 and many others who see things in his view are willing to throw away constitutional protections.

Want a gun, you must be a nut, clearly the 2nd amendment was not for nuts, so why even bother with the 2nd amendment.

Want to not say something, you must be guilty, obviously the 5th amendment shouldn't protect the guilty, so why even invoke the 5th amendment.

Want decisions kept at lower levels of government, clearly you don't want the greater good, the 10th amendment wasn't suppose to negate the greater good, so why even invoke the 10th amendment.

Don't want drones and wiretapping to be legal, clearly you are hiding something, so we need the drones and wiretapping to find out how bad you really are, who needs that protection for unreasonable search and seizure. Put password protection on your computer as you cross the border, that sounds like probable cause to the courts (look it up yourself). Sayonara 4th amendment.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

It's scary how easily people like G1 and many others who see things in his view are willing to throw away constitutional protections.

Want a gun, you must be a nut, clearly the 2nd amendment was not for nuts, so why even bother with the 2nd amendment.

Want to not say something, you must be guilty, obviously the 5th amendment shouldn't protect the guilty, so why even invoke the 5th amendment.

Want decisions kept at lower levels of government, clearly you don't want the greater good, the 10th amendment wasn't suppose to negate the greater good, so why even invoke the 10th amendment.

Don't want drones and wiretapping to be legal, clearly you are hiding something, so we need the drones and wiretapping to find out how bad you really are, who needs that protection for unreasonable search and seizure. Put password protection on your computer as you cross the border, that sounds like probable cause to the courts (look it up yourself). Sayonara 4th amendment.

It's sad how you and the others (rat) just want this country to live in fear ,I pity you .

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by Giantone

It's sad how you and the others (rat) just want this country to live in fear ,I pity you .

Says the "man" afraid of legal firearms.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Giantone

It's sad how you and the others (rat) just want this country to live in fear ,I pity you .

it's not about fear, it's about living up to the ideals of the constitution, and understanding what a dramatic and history altering set of ideals those were and still are.

We've been given an opportunity to live in a land that was built on the idea that government was beholden to the people that it governed. Because our nation has grown, and others have followed our basic tenets, many now want to act as if that is the natural state of people/government relations. But it's not, it never has been. The desire to govern, at it's core, is the desire to set up structures that others must follow. In our country, we put many restraints on every level of government, and our Constitution provides balancing rights to the people, so that structure can be created, while people still have the ability to live a life less beholden to that structure. The withering away of the balancing effect of the Bill of Rights has dramatically shifted the perception and balance of power in the people/government relationship. And it is sad to watch sheeple who gladly give away those things that people have shed their blood for for over 200 + years.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

it's not about fear, it's about living up to the ideals of the constitution, and understanding what a dramatic and history altering set of ideals those were and still are.

We've been given an opportunity to live in a land that was built on the idea that government was beholden to the people that it governed. Because our nation has grown, and others have followed our basic tenets, many now want to act as if that is the natural state of people/government relations. But it's not, it never has been. The desire to govern, at it's core, is the desire to set up structures that others must follow. In our country, we put many restraints on every level of government, and our Constitution provides balancing rights to the people, so that structure can be created, while people still have the ability to live a life less beholden to that structure. The withering away of the balancing effect of the Bill of Rights has dramatically shifted the perception and balance of power in the people/government relationship. And it is sad to watch sheeple who gladly give away those things that people have shed their blood for for over 200 + years.

+1

G1 - Who is more afraid:

The one who puts his safety at risk by insisting it is better for 99 guilty to be free to roam the streets rather than locking up one innocent person? or

The one who seeks safety by taking the risk of putting one innocent person in in jail in order to ensure 99 guilty are incarcerated?