Current 2014 Free Agents

[MTK]

Originally Posted by whistler

Bad value. Orakpo is on a 3-13 team. This not the time for a team in this position to overpay an decent rush LB, his pass coverage may have improved but it was terrible

Let another team sign him, it's time to move on from this experiment, he's an undersized rush end.

He was injured the season before the year he missed, and in that previous year his pectoral was partially torn for half the year and was largely ineffective.

This injury thing with him is tiring.

This is what really happened. He got injured in week 17 of 2011, re-injured it in week 2 of 2012. He missed 14 games in 2012. Outside of that he's missed just 2 other games.

He's made multiple Pro Bowls, safe to say LB is not just an experiment.

Washington Redskins Can't Let Brian Orakpo Go | Bleacher Report

[Lotus]

Good teams keep players like Brian Orakpo.

[SkinzzFan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

This injury thing with him is tiring.

This is what really happened. He got injured in week 17 of 2011, re-injured it in week 2 of 2012. He missed 14 games in 2012. Outside of that he's missed just 2 other games.

He's made multiple Pro Bowls, safe to say LB is not just an experiment.

Washington Redskins Can't Let Brian Orakpo Go | Bleacher Report

Well said. There are 31 other teams in the league who would love to have an "experiment" at LB like Brian Orakpo. Re-signing him is an absolute necessity. Any argument to the contrary is crazy in my opinion.

[whistler]

Originally Posted by SkinzzFan

Well said. There are 31 other teams in the league who would love to have an "experiment" at LB like Brian Orakpo. Re-signing him is an absolute necessity. Any argument to the contrary is crazy in my opinion.

The skins only have 30 mil in cap space and have numerous needs, If orakpo can be had for 6-7 mil per, that'll allow them to fill some holes maybe but, LBs are usually the heart of special teams and it'll limit them in quality depth, the thing that they've been needing.
He's really not a good value at that number. Hopefully the skins will realize that he's not a top shelf LB and let him walk if he wants more than 7 mil,

[redskins5044]

Originally Posted by whistler

The skins only have 30 mil in cap space and have numerous needs, If orakpo can be had for 6-7 mil per, that'll allow them to fill some holes maybe but, LBs are usually the heart of special teams and it'll limit them in quality depth, the thing that they've been needing.
He's really not a good value at that number. Hopefully the skins will realize that he's not a top shelf LB and let him walk if he wants more than 7 mil,

He will not take 6-7 million a year, he is going to want around 10 million per year. While I dont think he is worth it he will get it, IMO we will franchise him and try to work out a contract. If that can't be done then he will play for the tag price, Haslett loves Rak just like Hall. So I see him back at close to what he wants.

[donofriose]

Originally Posted by whistler

The skins only have 30 mil in cap space and have numerous needs, If orakpo can be had for 6-7 mil per, that'll allow them to fill some holes maybe but, LBs are usually the heart of special teams and it'll limit them in quality depth, the thing that they've been needing.
He's really not a good value at that number. Hopefully the skins will realize that he's not a top shelf LB and let him walk if he wants more than 7 mil,

I don't see how letting Orakpo go will help them fix their holes. All I see happening is the team creating another problem. Orakpo is a good OLB and the best pass rusher on the team. Is he Quinn or Mathis? No. But he is still a good football player that good teams wouldn't let go. I don't think he deserves a 60 million dollar deal, I believe the skins should franchise him. HOpefully they end up doing that.

[whistler]

Originally Posted by donofriose

I don't see how letting Orakpo go will help them fix their holes. All I see happening is the team creating another problem. Orakpo is a good OLB and the best pass rusher on the team. Is he Quinn or Mathis? No. But he is still a good football player that good teams wouldn't let go. I don't think he deserves a 60 million dollar deal, I believe the skins should franchise him. HOpefully they end up doing that.

If they franchise him that's 1/3 of the available cap room? He's not worth it!

[Irrefutable]

Originally Posted by donofriose

I don't see how letting Orakpo go will help them fix their holes. All I see happening is the team creating another problem. Orakpo is a good OLB and the best pass rusher on the team. Is he Quinn or Mathis? No. But he is still a good football player that good teams wouldn't let go. I don't think he deserves a 60 million dollar deal, I believe the skins should franchise him. HOpefully they end up doing that.

franchise tag will cost about 11 million, that leaves 20-30 million(they can gain cap room by cutting OL/DL) for 4 OL 1 WR, 1 TE, 2 DL, 2 LBs, 1 CB , 1 S

7 free agents, and 5 good draft picks... which would be a first

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by Irrefutable

franchise tag will cost about 11 million, that leaves 20-30 million(they can gain cap room by cutting OL/DL) for 4 OL 1 WR, 1 TE, 2 DL, 2 LBs, 1 CB , 1 S

7 free agents, and 5 good draft picks... which would be a first

Orakpo has never been worth 11 million per year.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Irrefutable

franchise tag will cost about 11 million, that leaves 20-30 million(they can gain cap room by cutting OL/DL) for 4 OL 1 WR, 1 TE, 2 DL, 2 LBs, 1 CB , 1 S

7 free agents, and 5 good draft picks... which would be a first

Bruce Allen said that he wanted to add 20 new players to the team. That is a very large number of players to add in one offseason. If he indeed adds that many new players, more than half of them would probably be UFA's. That's going to require alot of cap space, which makes me wonder if signing Orakpo is a good idea for a team that finished 3-13 last season and is planning to make alot of personnel changes during the offseason.

I doubt that the Skins can or even want to sign Orakpo to a multi-year deal. So, to me, the only question for the Skins about Orakpo is "Can we improve the defense more by tagging Orakpo for $11M or by signing two mid-tier FA's to more favorable, longer-term contracts?".

The Skins need alot of help on defense but we have Jackson and Jenkins at OLB, so the cupboard isn't bare at that position. I'm starting to wonder if the Skins might just let Orakpo walk in favor of picking up two good players at other positions.

[Gary84Clark]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Bruce Allen said that he wanted to add 20 new players to the team. That is a very large number of players to add in one offseason. If he indeed adds that many new players, more than half of them would probably be UFA's. That's going to require alot of cap space, which makes me wonder if signing Orakpo is a good idea for a team that finished 3-13 last season and is planning to make alot of personnel changes during the offseason.

I doubt that the Skins can or even want to sign Orakpo to a multi-year deal. So, to me, the only question for the Skins about Orakpo is "Can we improve the defense more by tagging Orakpo for $11M or by signing two mid-tier FA's to more favorable, longer-term contracts?".

The Skins need alot of help on defense but we have Jackson and Jenkins at OLB, so the cupboard isn't bare at that position. I'm starting to wonder if the Skins might just let Orakpo walk in favor of picking up two good players at other positions.

Either sign Orakpo or draft his repalcement. KI you got me confused. You want your back up QB to be top notch and then go cheap at linebacker. I would do the opposite. Go top notch at LB and go cheap at back up QB. if we release Orakpo we could trade Cousins and use the pick we get for him to move up to draft another Orakpo type player.

[Gary84Clark]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Bruce Allen said that he wanted to add 20 new players to the team. That is a very large number of players to add in one offseason. If he indeed adds that many new players, more than half of them would probably be UFA's. That's going to require alot of cap space, which makes me wonder if signing Orakpo is a good idea for a team that finished 3-13 last season and is planning to make alot of personnel changes during the offseason.

I doubt that the Skins can or even want to sign Orakpo to a multi-year deal. So, to me, the only question for the Skins about Orakpo is "Can we improve the defense more by tagging Orakpo for $11M or by signing two mid-tier FA's to more favorable, longer-term contracts?".

The Skins need alot of help on defense but we have Jackson and Jenkins at OLB, so the cupboard isn't bare at that position. I'm starting to wonder if the Skins might just let Orakpo walk in favor of picking up two good players at other positions.

You over value Cousins and devalue Orakpo. IMO

[Skinzman]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Bruce Allen said that he wanted to add 20 new players to the team. That is a very large number of players to add in one offseason. If he indeed adds that many new players, more than half of them would probably be UFA's. That's going to require alot of cap space, which makes me wonder if signing Orakpo is a good idea for a team that finished 3-13 last season and is planning to make alot of personnel changes during the offseason.

I doubt that the Skins can or even want to sign Orakpo to a multi-year deal. So, to me, the only question for the Skins about Orakpo is "Can we improve the defense more by tagging Orakpo for $11M or by signing two mid-tier FA's to more favorable, longer-term contracts?".

The Skins need alot of help on defense but we have Jackson and Jenkins at OLB, so the cupboard isn't bare at that position. I'm starting to wonder if the Skins might just let Orakpo walk in favor of picking up two good players at other positions.

Jackson is a FA also, so technically we only have Jenkins. Jackson may be the better overall OLB, but still cant rush the passer as good as Orakpo. So it depends on what they want from the OLB's as to who to resign. If they are finally going to let the OLB's be a true pass rusher, as some reports have said, then Orakpo is the better choice. If they are only going to let them rush 60% of the time, then Jackson may be the better choice and will be cheaper.

The salary cap is going up in future years more that it has in the past. The new TV contracts go into effect this year and will hit the cap next year, and according to reports, those TV contracts are much larger than the ones that just expired (Plus the addition of one more since they recently signed a Thursday night contract). Some of that money has already been used up since it was brought forward to keep the cap from going down the last 2 or 3 years but the cap is still expected to make some jumps in the next few years. 11 mil for a player with a 120 mil cap is quite different than 11 mil with a 150 mil cap. The better GM's will have this in mind when signing long term contracts. Signing Orakpo to a 5 year contract at 11 mil per may be a steal in a couple of years depending on how high the cap goes.

Orakpo is going to get that since salaries are going to be going up as the cap does. Its actually probably better for Orakpo to be tagged and hit FA again next year where the price tag for a pass rusher will probably go up.