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[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Lotus

I sure don't think that the NRA is looking out for me. But Padre Pio was a fake. His "wounds" disappeared right after death in a way that would not have happened if he truly had been bleeding. I think he was a benign pious fake: he wasn't trying to put people on, he was just trying to imitate Jesus. Nonetheless there is no miracle with him.

I understand that is your opinion but not true .

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[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Giantone

I understand that is your opinion but not true .

Science Tests Faith - YouTube

I would be happy if Padre Pio were a true stigmatist. But he wasn't.

Padre Pio in fact was an example of a problem with most supposed stigmatists: they get the wounds wrong. The Romans crucified through the wrist, not the palms, since hand bones are not strong enough to hold up the body. In the Middle Ages artists began depicting the wounds in the wrong place, the palms. Thus stigmatists who have bleeding hands and palms are imitating art, not the true life Jesus.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Lotus

I would be happy if Padre Pio were a true stigmatist. But he wasn't.

Padre Pio in fact was an example of a problem with most supposed stigmatists: they get the wounds wrong. The Romans crucified through the wrist, not the palms, since hand bones are not strong enough to hold up the body. In the Middle Ages artists began depicting the wounds in the wrong place, the palms. Thus stigmatists who have bleeding hands and palms are imitating art, not the true life Jesus.

Actually alot of the crucified were also tied down at different parts (neck, shoulders, arms, waist etc.) on the cross because of tearing at the limbs. The act of striking into the wrist, base of palm, or actual palm had to do more with the message: pain to the subject and instilling fear in the community.