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[NC_Skins]

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

More oil companies = more jobs for the unemployed



When choosing to support the job market or paying the individual for not working, it's always better for the country as a whole to do the first.


What we really need is less subsidies AND less taxes. Let the companies sustain themselves fairly.

[Daseal]

Originally Posted by Monkeydad

More oil companies = more jobs for the unemployed



When choosing to support the job market or paying the individual for not working, it's always better for the country as a whole to do the first.


What we really need is less subsidies AND less taxes. Let the companies sustain themselves fairly.

What about the companies that hire people, but don't pay high enough wages for the person to support themselves with a full-time job? Personally, I agree. Subsidies should not be given out easily. I don't think we need less taxes, I do think we need simpler and harder to evade tax laws. Overall, I think companies should be able to both survive and allow their employees to survive without outside assistance, if they are unable to, they shouldn't be in business.

The caveat is I believe subsidies are necessary for certain products/services. There are certain things that simply cannot be profitable, but greatly benefit us as a country. For instance, ensuring everyone has access to high speed internet, power, telephone, etc. There may not be the ability to make a profit there, but it is important for us, as a country, to ensure certain basic necessities to everyone.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Monkeydad

More oil companies = more jobs for the unemployed



When choosing to support the job market or paying the individual for not working, it's always better for the country as a whole to do the first.

This is the mentality that has led to this country's downfall. GIVING RICH PEOPLE MONEY DOES NOT EQUATE TO CREATING JOBS.

How often to people have to keep parroting this stupid bullshit?


Fossil-fuel subsidies are the real job killers *|*Labor Network for Sustainability

They discovered that despite generating $546 billion in profits between 2005 and 2010, ExxonMobil, Chevron, Shell, and BP reduced their U.S. workforce by 11,200 employees over that period.

In 2010 alone, the top five oil companies slashed their global workforce by 4,400 employees — the same year executives paid themselves nearly $220 million. But at least those working in the industry as a whole get paid high wages, right? Turns out that 40 percent of U.S oil-industry jobs consist of minimum-wage work at gas stations.

You were saying?

When choosing to support the job market or paying the individual for not working, it's always better for the country as a whole to do the first.

The ignorance in this country is outstanding. I can see how and why people are enslaved so easily. Create a lie, repeat it enough to where it becomes their truth and way of life.

You spouting this crap is worse than G1 speaking about the stigmatas.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

This is the mentality that has led to this country's downfall. GIVING RICH PEOPLE MONEY DOES NOT EQUATE TO CREATING JOBS.

So you gave gotten all of your jobs from poor people?

Successful people are exactly the people who are in a position to employ people and penalizing them is only going to hurt the potential people they could employ.


The lack of common sense in this nation astounds me.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Monkeydad

So you gave gotten all of your jobs from poor people?

Successful people are exactly the people who are in a position to employ people and penalizing them is only going to hurt the potential people they could employ.


The lack of common sense in this nation astounds me.

Nice sidestep. Why don't you just admit you were wrong? It's much easier than continuing a lie you've been told your whole life.

You still believe in trickle down economics right?...lol

[Daseal]

Originally Posted by Monkeydad

So you gave gotten all of your jobs from poor people?

Successful people are exactly the people who are in a position to employ people and penalizing them is only going to hurt the potential people they could employ.


The lack of common sense in this nation astounds me.

Companies and the wealthy are the ones hiring people. They are not the people pumping money into our economy. The middle class and the poor are the folks who pump money into our economy. When they get a pay check they use it to purchase goods and services, they do not have the luxury to tuck away that money. Companies on the other hand are attempting to be as cost efficient as possible, they don't actively look to spend surplus money.

I'm a firm believer that more money being spent by individuals will drive demand for products, thus creating jobs. I don't believe giving a business more money to spend will motivate them to create jobs. If companies are forced to keep up with demand and their services are slipping as a result, they will hire people to handle the demand. Empower the consumers and your economy will be active. Empower businesses and they will look to use the money as efficiently as possible. Efficient use of funds does not equate to a strong economy.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Daseal

Companies and the wealthy are the ones hiring people. They are not the people pumping money into our economy. The middle class and the poor are the folks who pump money into our economy. When they get a pay check they use it to purchase goods and services, they do not have the luxury to tuck away that money. Companies on the other hand are attempting to be as cost efficient as possible, they don't actively look to spend surplus money.

I'm a firm believer that more money being spent by individuals will drive demand for products, thus creating jobs. I don't believe giving a business more money to spend will motivate them to create jobs. If companies are forced to keep up with demand and their services are slipping as a result, they will hire people to handle the demand. Empower the consumers and your economy will be active. Empower businesses and they will look to use the money as efficiently as possible. Efficient use of funds does not equate to a strong economy.

good post. Your top section was my arguement to my dad a couple weeks ago when explaining the affect of raising the minimum wage. Folks who make a low wage will essentially have more purchasing power and they spend. AND where do they spend it? The top retailers in the country and usually close within their community.