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Re: Hey there's about to be a war in Ukraine.
A Russian artillery assault devastated a maternity and children's hospital complex in the besieged southern Ukrainian city of Mariupol, Ukrainian officials said Wednesday.
The Mariupol City Council posted video on social media of the battered buildings. "The destruction is enormous," the council said in a statement. "The building of the medical institution where the children were treated recently was completely destroyed. Information about the affected children is being clarified." President Volodymyr Zelensky said people were still trapped in the wreckage. He urged the West to ban Russia from the skies over Ukraine. "Atrocity! How much longer will the world be an accomplice ignoring terror?" Zelenskyy said in a Twitter post. "Close the sky right now! Stop the killings! You have power but you seem to be losing humanity." The U.S. and its allies have declined to do so because it could further drag the alliance into the war. The West has hit Russia with heavy economic sanctions, and on Wednesday the Kremlin threatened retaliation for the "economic war" it accused the U.S. of waging. A plan for Poland to provide fighter jets to Ukraine was also in doubt after the Polish government said it would give all of its Soviet-built MiG-29 fighter jets to the U.S. –apparently to allow them to be used by Ukraine’s military. The Pentagon dismissed the idea as not "tenable.” “Poland is not a side in this war ... and NATO is not a side in this war,” Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki Morawiecki said Wednesday during a visit to Vienna. “Such a serious decision like handing over planes must be unanimous and unequivocally taken by all of the North Atlantic alliance." https://www.yahoo.com/news/harris-vi...081315764.html Putin bombed the hell out of a childrens hospital ... "never again will the free world sit back and watch crimes against humanity ... until the next time" we have to do something |
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The Starter
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Re: Hey there's about to be a war in Ukraine.
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Re: Hey there's about to be a war in Ukraine.
Link has a video (UAV camera bounces around a bit though) of a tank battle. Video shows a platoon of Russian tanks and couple of APCs engaging something off screen to the left (probably Ukrainian tanks). Shows hit on BMP (starts to burn), a Russian tank advancing and firing and then that tank being hit and destroyed (it's ammo rack exploded) by return fire.
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Re: Hey there's about to be a war in Ukraine.
And for those who say who does he go after next, let the sanctions catch up with him. Let the people around him slowly turn away. It is a shitty situation right now. Doesn’t mean you stop seeing the big picture and get stupid.
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Re: Hey there's about to be a war in Ukraine.
Ex-Trump national security advisor John Bolton says 'Putin saw Trump doing a lot of his work for him,' so he chose not to invade Ukraine
https://www.businessinsider.com/john...for-him-2022-3 Former national security advisor John Bolton said "Putin saw Trump doing a lot of his work for him." Trump considered withdrawing the US from NATO while he was president. Bolton said it's one of the reasons that Putin did not invade Ukraine during Trump's time in office.
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Re: Hey there's about to be a war in Ukraine.
My vote is its a pussy move. (for whatever worth a random internet person thinks)
I understand denying the no fly zone request bc that creates actual direct conflict. Here, Ukraine pilots go across border, steal some polish Migs and fly them into Ukraine. What the difference btw supplying Javelins and anti aircraft vs old fighter jets? Supplying a different kind of equipment and its all "defensive" as it will be utilized within Ukraine air space. Nato wanted to help in a non direct way .. and the US pussied out. We are going to pussy out this entire thing while letting Putin dictate the terms of engagement. Never again ... what a joke. |
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Re: Hey there's about to be a war in Ukraine.
G1 how do you do it? You had and have a crisis at the border, Afghanistan, covid, Ukraine, inflation, energy…and you seem to think actually everything is going great and according to plan.
How do you do this?
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Nobody said everything is going great. Thats just your spin. What we keep telling you, is that Donald Trump was a disaster, totally botched the covid response, and most of these things you mention are not Bidens fault. You however have made it your lifes work to prove to anyone who will still listen to you that its all Bidens fault and it was heaven on earth when your racist dumbass was in charge of adult things. |
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https://news.yahoo.com/official-trum...100328595.html Afghanistan.. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-trump-taliban Covid .............. https://fortune.com/2020/11/13/covid...s-coronavirus/ Ukraine... https://time.com/5732777/trumps-acti...ine-dangerous/ His own people say he was doing putins job for him Energy / Inflation . GOP attacks on Biden for high gas prices don't add up, expert says https://news.yahoo.com/gop-attacks-o...161903465.html Since President Biden announced on Tuesday that the U.S. would ban imports of Russian oil as punishment for its invasion of Ukraine, several Republican politicians have attempted to blame him for rising gas prices. On Wednesday, House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy delivered a speech in which he asserted that Russia's invasion of Ukraine was not the reason for high gas prices — Biden's energy policies were. To back up his claim, McCarthy asserted that gas prices "started rising the day President Biden took office." Yahoo News reached out to Christopher Knittel, a professor of applied economics at the MIT Sloan School of Management, to help explain whether the Republican criticisms of Biden hold water. "The first thing is, that’s factually inaccurate," Knittel said. "Gas prices actually started rising in November of the previous year. That’s just data, so you can graph gas prices and you’ll see them starting to trend up in November of 2020." Knittel noted that there "is no evidence" Biden's inauguration "broke the trend in gas prices," and pointed back to the early days of the pandemic, when the price of oil dropped precipitously as the world went into lockdown to try to slow the spread of the coronavirus. “What everybody seems to be forgetting, and it’s shocking that they are, is in April of 2020 the futures price of oil was negative. It had never happened in the history of oil markets. We had a negative price," Knittel said. "People were paying others to take their oil. That is a huge disincentive to drill for more oil. The low prices, generally, that happened during the pandemic and up until the end of 2020 created a huge disincentive to drill oil. Despite that, we’ve seen U.S. production increase over the past year. Why hasn’t it increased more? Because oil companies are leery of drilling for more oil — certainly they were during the pandemic — and that’s a market effect. It has nothing to do with President Biden.”
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Re: Hey there's about to be a war in Ukraine.
https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2022...wanted-n454345
Blinken and NATO had a deal…Biden killed it. Biden pussied out
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