Ukraine mega thread

[nonniey]

12 March assessment (Not reflected in this assessment, but I've seen multiple Twitter reporting in the last hour that claim a Ukrainian counter-attack has broken the siege of Mariupal).

https://www.understandingwar.org/bac...sment-march-12

[nonniey]

Oh and to add to the fun looks like Iran attacked American targets in Iraq this evening with ballistic missiles. Joy Joy.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by nonniey

Oh and to add to the fun looks like Iran attacked American targets in Iraq this evening with ballistic missiles. Joy Joy.

You would think 12 missiles fired from Iran at the us consulate in Iraq would be a big deal. Let’s see how this is handled.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

You would think 12 missiles fired from Iran at the us consulate in Iraq would be a big deal. Let’s see how this is handled.

Pretty sure smarter people then you are on it chico!

Don't think this has nothing to do with our suppling more weapons in Ukraine.

[nonniey]

Originally Posted by Giantone

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Don't think this has nothing to do with our suppling more weapons in Ukraine.

Just need a clarification - So you are saying you think this was because we supplied more weapons to Ukraine?

[mooby]

https://www.motherjones.com/politics...r-carlson-fox/

Quick - Nonniey/Chico - somebody explain to me again why Tucker Carlson is defending Russia. Goodness of his heart? Is he on the Russian payroll? Just asking questions here. Help me reach the real conclusion.

[nonniey]

Originally Posted by mooby

https://www.motherjones.com/politics...r-carlson-fox/

Quick - Nonniey/Chico - somebody explain to me again why Tucker Carlson is defending Russia. Goodness of his heart? Is he on the Russian payroll? Just asking questions here. Help me reach the real conclusion.

He's part of the Putin wing of the Republican party, which really do exist, although a small minority (go to Free Republic they have a lot them posting there - not all but possibly a majority of their posters).

[mooby]

Originally Posted by nonniey

He's part of the Putin wing of the Republican party, which really do exist, although a small minority (go to Free Republic they have a lot them posting there - not all but possibly a majority of their posters).

Awesome, thanks for the brief but sufficient explanation nonniey.

Here, let me write up Chico's response for him.

Originally Posted by Chico, in my own words

Yeah well, what about Bernie Sanders? Actually sticking up for Russia and asking us to look at things from their perspective? Maybe he's on Vlad's payroll too!!!!!

To which I would say: Judging by his lengthy list of tweets since then, it seems Bernie is solidly on the "Vlad=bad" bandwagon, but if in the event Bernie and Tucker have made some sort of quid-pro-quo to do whatever they can to help Russia behind the scenes, then I will disavow Bernie as well. However I don't see the necessary follow-up evidence making that clear-cut.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by mooby

https://www.motherjones.com/politics...r-carlson-fox/

Quick - Nonniey/Chico - somebody explain to me again why Tucker Carlson is defending Russia. Goodness of his heart? Is he on the Russian payroll? Just asking questions here. Help me reach the real conclusion.

A just reminder, David Corn is a purveyor of fake news and lies, was the guy who went with the Steele Dossier and published it as fact when other news orgs knew it was A. dem oppo research document and B. Could not be verified or second source as accurate

But yeah believing anything like David Corn or a Mother Jones rag in general is pretty telling.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

A just reminder, David Corn is a purveyor of fake news and lies, was the guy who went with the Steele Dossier and published it as fact when other news orgs knew it was A. dem oppo research document and B. Could not be verified or second source as accurate

But yeah believing anything like David Corn or a Mother Jones rag in general is pretty telling.

Classic. A brief reprieve saying the guy who wrote the article and the website are both untrustworthy - while totally ignoring the source for the article which is the Russian memo telling people to promote Tucker Carlson. I forgot about that angle Chico.

Coming up next week: Are we sure Chico isn't on the Russian payroll? Hey - Im just asking questions.

[nonniey]

13 March Assessement.

https://www.understandingwar.org/

[nonniey]

14 March Assessment.

https://www.understandingwar.org/

[SunnySide]

Russian forces made small territorial gains in Luhansk Oblast on March 14 but did not conduct any major attacks toward Kyiv or in northeastern Ukraine. Russian forces continue to assemble reinforcements and attempt to improve logistical support in both the Kyiv and southern operational directions. Ongoing Russian efforts to replace combat losses with both Russian replacements and non-Russian sources, including Syrian fighters and the Wagner Group, are unlikely to enable Russia to resume major offensive operations within the coming week.

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Id guess Putin hoped he get to Kyiv as quickly as possible, install a "temporary" President and then begin the PR work on scaling back the sanctions by making concessions like humanitarian aid to come in and allow peace keepers on the ground ... try to play the good guy

Now?

Seems like they are stretched to thin. Are writing Plan B at this moment.

I hope this lull allows for people to get to safety and defense forces to be reinforced

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

Russian forces made small territorial gains in Luhansk Oblast on March 14 but did not conduct any major attacks toward Kyiv or in northeastern Ukraine. Russian forces continue to assemble reinforcements and attempt to improve logistical support in both the Kyiv and southern operational directions. Ongoing Russian efforts to replace combat losses with both Russian replacements and non-Russian sources, including Syrian fighters and the Wagner Group, are unlikely to enable Russia to resume major offensive operations within the coming week.

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Id guess Putin hoped he get to Kyiv as quickly as possible, install a "temporary" President and then begin the PR work on scaling back the sanctions by making concessions like humanitarian aid to come in and allow peace keepers on the ground ... try to play the good guy

Seems he might need trump in Office in 24

[sdskinsfan2001]

Putin just needs to accept Musk's challenge. Musk will kick his ass then this whole thing can be over.