Pro-gun article

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by RedskinRat

Keep the lies coming, they're hilarious!

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Yeah, we know he gets info from shady sources, like those that count gang-banger teenagers as "children". But when I consider the implication of G1's numbers, that all those regrettable deaths, a lot of them suicides, only happened because a gun was available....

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by HailGreen28

Yeah, we know he gets info from shady sources, like those that count gang-banger teenagers as "children".

Yes, the innocent children...

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by Monkeydad

Yes, the innocent children...

dude ........ you know exactly what you are.

people like you are a big part of the problem.

monkeydad i personally am never going to "chat" with you again on here.

is there an ignore function?

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Monkeydad

Yes, the innocent children...

You act as if that moron George Zimmerman is innocent. He was a lunatic that really has no right to be carrying his gun. While I agree with the verdict (based on law), this tragedy could have been avoided by cooler heads. Irrational people that make poor decisions shouldn't be carrying guns.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

You act as if that moron George Zimmerman is innocent. He was a lunatic that really has no right to be carrying his gun. While I agree with the verdict (based on law), this tragedy could have been avoided by cooler heads. Irrational people that make poor decisions shouldn't be carrying guns.

There's the problem with the anti-gun crowd. You feel that you, or at least the Government has the authority to judge who has the "right" and who should be denied their Constitutional rights and it doesn't end at the 2nd Amendment, you can so casually deny the 1st Amendment right to those you do not agree with. Don't agree? I bet you'd shut down every Tea Party rally in a second if you could. You spewed some hatred about them earlier actually.


Fact was that Zimmerman was assaulted and he defended himself. Was he a completely, 100% sane person? Who knows except God. He saw a young thug peeking into windows and tried to help his neighbors. Should he have left it up to the cops? Yes, probably, but you do not know him well enough to say that the Constitution doesn't apply to him. There was a big effort by the media and the President himself to paint Zimmerman, who was also a victim of a crime as a madman just because they were able to politically capitalize on the death of a black kid. Besides, if the President had a son, he's look like Travon, but he wouldn't be allowed to play football. I heard the President STILL using that kid's name last week in a speech.


Should we try to prevent legitimate mentally-ill people from having firearms, absolutely! That's the Sandy Hook shooter right there, he was mental...not an NRA member like Giantone likes to pretend. But, we do not want the Government ever being the judge and jury on illness, ask Jews in Germany how that power ends up.


Next time your head is being slammed into the concrete sidewalk by a 6-foot tall teenager in a hoodie who is taller than you are, I hope you have the chance to defend yourself too.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by HailGreen28

Yeah, we know he gets info from shady sources, like those that count gang-banger teenagers as "children". But when I consider the implication of G1's numbers, that all those regrettable deaths, a lot of them suicides, only happened because a gun was available....

Why was a gun available ?

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Why was a gun available ?

Because guns serve useful purposes, such as self defense, hunting and other sport, and are a constitutional power of the people.

Some people just don't get that.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by HailGreen28

Because guns serve useful purposes, such as self defense, hunting and other sport, and are a constitutional power of the people.

Some people just don't get that.

wow , nice try on the spin .WHY where guns available for kids to commit suicide and where did you get the numbers that they were a suicide ?

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by Giantone

wow , nice try on the spin .WHY where guns available for kids to commit suicide and where did you get the numbers that they were a suicide ?

Sigh, why don't you stop trying to spin things. Your spin is the reason for your massive disconnect between what people have told you, and your responses.

I said you cite sources that count teenaged gangbangers as "children", and that a lot of gun deaths are suicides. What I guess I have to spell out for you, is that in counting all gun deaths without thought, you count suicides which would probably have happened even if guns didn't exist. But that would require critical thinking, like questioning the "children" numbers.

Read post #437. And realize RR and I were responding to your last post at the time #435. At least stop trying to spin things to put words in people's mouths.

Another recent example of your disconnect with what people are saying: Read post #796 in the Pics For Sharing & Debating thread. Try to follow arguments while debating.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by HailGreen28

Sigh, why don't you stop trying to spin things. Your spin is the reason for your massive disconnect between what people have told you, and your responses.

I said you cite sources that count teenaged gangbangers as "children", and that a lot of gun deaths are suicides. What I guess I have to spell out for you, is that in counting all gun deaths without thought, you count suicides which would probably have happened even if guns didn't exist. But that would require critical thinking, like questioning the "children" numbers.

Read post #437. And realize RR and I were responding to your last post at the time #435. At least stop trying to spin things to put words in people's mouths.

Another recent example of your disconnect with what people are saying: Read post #796 in the Pics For Sharing & Debating thread. Try to follow arguments while debating.

Thank God ,you prove my point .What I'm trying to point out and either you are ignoring it or chose to spin it yourself is that the guns deaths that were suicides ,these kids should not have be able to get to guns .Like it or not just because you call someone a "gang banger" doesn't me there aren't children some are 12 and 13.Seems you and Rat don't like something so there for it is wrong or doesn't exist, you are so pro gun you're blind to simple gun safety, laws people want no one is taking you guns so you can take that cry and cram it .

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Thank God ,you prove my point .What I'm trying to point out and either you are ignoring it or chose to spin it yourself is that the guns deaths that were suicides ,these kids should not have be able to get to guns .Like it or not just because you call someone a "gang banger" doesn't me there aren't children some are 12 and 13.Seems you and Rat don't like something so there for it is wrong or doesn't exist, you are so pro gun you're blind to simple gun safety, laws people want no one is taking you guns so you can take that cry and cram it .

Sifting through your spin and lack of any point, and trying to twist what I said (for example, show of hands: anyone other than G1 think I was saying the children's deaths were suicides?) I bolded the only thing on topic. The answer, to the problem you state, is enforcing existing laws regarding gun ownership and child endangerment, and education. Example here: LINK. Particularly the section "A Parent's Guide to Gun Safety".

Oh, and one more thing.

Originally Posted by Giantone

(snip) no one is taking you guns so you can take that cry and cram it .

Explain your post here.

Originally Posted by Giantone

Done deal.Maryland next

New York passes nation's toughest gun control law | NJ.com

York state enacted the nation's toughest gun restrictions today and the first since the Connecticut school massacre, including an expanded assault-weapon ban and background checks for buying ammunition.
Democratic Gov. Andrew Cuomo signed the measure into law less than an hour after it won final passage in the Legislature, with supporters hailing it as a model for the nation and gun-rights activists condemning it as a knee-jerk piece of legislation that won't make anyone safer and is too extreme to win support in the rest of the country.
"Common sense can win," Cuomo said. "You can overpower the extremists with intelligence and with reason and with common sense."