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Old 03-26-2014, 11:32 AM   #1
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Re: Redskins' Dan Snyder Announces Creation of Foundation to Help Native Americans

Crazy thing yesterday. Was flipping thru and stopped on CNN, and they had a segment on the creation of the charity and the Redskins name controversy. Their special guest was part of the Smithsonian Native American board, and I thought it would be interesting, then the guest said, "I wrote my first letter on this topic to the WP in 1973 when I was 18". My only thought was, then wouldn't it make sense for CNN to have a strong proponent of keeping the name? Clearly their guest had no objectivity, which is fine, except the host made no attempt at presenting a different view, simply kept feeding simplistic questions to allow the guest to go on about all names, and Redskins in particular.
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Old 03-26-2014, 11:38 AM   #2
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Crazy thing yesterday. Was flipping thru and stopped on CNN, and they had a segment on the creation of the charity and the Redskins name controversy. Their special guest was part of the Smithsonian Native American board, and I thought it would be interesting, then the guest said, "I wrote my first letter on this topic to the WP in 1973 when I was 18". My only thought was, then wouldn't it make sense for CNN to have a strong proponent of keeping the name? Clearly their guest had no objectivity, which is fine, except the host made no attempt at presenting a different view, simply kept feeding simplistic questions to allow the guest to go on about all names, and Redskins in particular.
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Old 03-26-2014, 01:11 PM   #3
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Re: Redskins' Dan Snyder Announces Creation of Foundation to Help Native Americans

And it starts.

http://news.yahoo.com/redskins-owner...061432710.html
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Old 03-26-2014, 01:49 PM   #4
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While the effort is commendable, it’s also an obvious attempt at misdirection to take pressure off the team over their offensive namesake.
Why not just leave it at that? Why try to stir up more fake outrage by writing an idiotic article about how Snyder is attempting to "divert attention" from the "racist team name" by addressing Native Americans' real challenges? Snyder's doing more to help the Native Americans than probably anyone from Yahoo or The Wire has ever done in their whole life for anyone in need. Instead of wasting his time writing this article, Mr. Brian Feldman should have called Snyder and asked how he could help with the foundation; then he'd actually be doing some good.

And this quote just makes me sob: “[Snyder] can cry about high rates of suicides but he doesn’t begin to understand how he’s contributing to that and that this is a real matter of life and death,” she told ThinkProgress." Really? So instead of poverty, lack of education, or some other problem Native Americans face, you're going to blame the name of a football team for high suicide rates? You know what? I totally understand that.
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Old 03-26-2014, 04:02 PM   #5
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Why not just leave it at that? Why try to stir up more fake outrage by writing an idiotic article about how Snyder is attempting to "divert attention" from the "racist team name" by addressing Native Americans' real challenges? Snyder's doing more to help the Native Americans than probably anyone from Yahoo or The Wire has ever done in their whole life for anyone in need. Instead of wasting his time writing this article, Mr. Brian Feldman should have called Snyder and asked how he could help with the foundation; then he'd actually be doing some good.

And this quote just makes me sob: “[Snyder] can cry about high rates of suicides but he doesn’t begin to understand how he’s contributing to that and that this is a real matter of life and death,” she told ThinkProgress." Really? So instead of poverty, lack of education, or some other problem Native Americans face, you're going to blame the name of a football team for high suicide rates? You know what? I totally understand that.
How in the world is Snyder contributing to the suicide rate amongst Native Americans? What an idiotic article this is! Opps....hope that wasn't derogatory.
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Snyder has been devaluing the prestige of the Redskins brand for a better part of a decade now and this PR move isn't going to change that nor will it change the desire by many to have the name changed. The loss of the Redskins trademark is inevitable and I for one hope it happens. These Redskins are not the Redskins of yesteryears and every year that passes by it becomes harder to relate the brand. Honestly, this is a great opportunity to re-brand the team before the brand's value becomes junk. It worked for Arthur Anderson, I can't imagine why it wouldn't work for Daniel Snyer.
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Snyder has been devaluing the prestige of the Redskins brand for a better part of a decade now and this PR move isn't going to change that nor will it change the desire by many to have the name changed. The loss of the Redskins trademark is inevitable and I for one hope it happens. These Redskins are not the Redskins of yesteryears and every year that passes by it becomes harder to relate the brand. Honestly, this is a great opportunity to re-brand the team before the brand's value becomes junk. It worked for Arthur Anderson, I can't imagine why it wouldn't work for Daniel Snyer.
It's already devalued. But that's not because of resistance to change the name.
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Old 03-27-2014, 07:14 PM   #9
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Snyder has been devaluing the prestige of the Redskins brand for a better part of a decade now and this PR move isn't going to change that nor will it change the desire by many to have the name changed. The loss of the Redskins trademark is inevitable and I for one hope it happens. These Redskins are not the Redskins of yesteryears and every year that passes by it becomes harder to relate the brand. Honestly, this is a great opportunity to re-brand the team before the brand's value becomes junk. It worked for Arthur Anderson, I can't imagine why it wouldn't work for Daniel Snyer.
So you want them to lose the trademark, but not because you have a problem with the name, but because you hate Dan Snyder. Interesting...

If the team is rebranded, it will still be owned by Dan. Of all the reasons I have heard for changing the name, this is the first time I have heard loss of prestige of the Redskins brand due to not liking the owner.
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So you want them to lose the trademark, but not because you have a problem with the name, but because you hate Dan Snyder. Interesting...

If the team is rebranded, it will still be owned by Dan. Of all the reasons I have heard for changing the name, this is the first time I have heard loss of prestige of the Redskins brand due to not liking the owner.
Hate is such a weak word...I'm fine with him owning a team with a name other than Redskins.

The name deserves to be treated with honor...put it to rest before its too late.
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Hate is such a weak word...I'm fine with him owning a team with a name other than Redskins.

The name deserves to be treated with honor...put it to rest before its too late.
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but if he is anything like me I would imagine he hates his guts for valid reasons....
Hate is such a weak word, but you are willing to say that you hate his guts. It may be a weak word, buts its the word you use.

It still boils down to if the name is changed, the team is still owned by Snyder. If you have no problem with the name Redskins, but your problem is with Snyder, then say that you want a new owner. Only rail against the name if you truly believe its racist.

Saying you want the name to change based on hating the owner is as flippant to me as Peter King, Bob Costas, Mike Wise, and the rest of the media all of a sudden taking up the cause due to it bringing in advertising dollars when they wouldnt touch the cause prior to it enhancing their own wallets. That means its not really their cause, just a money maker to them. Its nothing more than a hypocrite for hire scheme.
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Hate is such a weak word...I'm fine with him owning a team with a name other than Redskins.

The name deserves to be treated with honor...put it to rest before its too late.
Good God! Are we Europe on the eve of 1939? The name does deserve to be treated with honor. You don't do that by appeasing the wolves and leaving it to slaughter.

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Okay maybe that's a bit dramatic, but I want Snyder to do three things, keep his mits out of football decisions, write the checks, and keep the Redskins name. With CAPS if possible.
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Old 03-27-2014, 06:43 PM   #14
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Regardless of what we think, we should give Snyder credit for taking the time to hear these people out. Apparently he did travel to some of these Indian reservations so good for him. But as I mentioned, stop with the statements. Come and and talk for once.
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Old 03-27-2014, 10:29 PM   #15
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I am not going to post a link because Mike Wise articles ought to be banned from all creation, but a news feed app pulled his latest Snyder hatchet job about finding a native american woman who posted a selfie with a 10 dollar bill over her mouth. You can guess the rest of the article.

I really would like to know what exactly Snyder did to Wise. I know the basics but he seems like he has only one mission and that is to tear anything that Snyder does down. And I would love to understand why the Post continues to employ him.
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