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Old 03-28-2014, 12:36 PM   #1
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I think alot of people dont understand Colbert character or get the humor. Sum up pretty good by the last paragraph:

"Whether the joke was offensive or not is really up to personal taste, but the line isn’t particularly surprising. Colbert’s entire schtick is playing a more overt caricature of conservative talking heads, making their implicit racism explicit in what is now an extended, decade-long bit. That one line — when divorced from context — appeared to just be a racist quip possibly illustrates the point. It's cranking offensiveness up so far as to be inherently unbelievable. Again, react however you choose, but this sort of thing is Colbert’s bread and butter.."

but again, please continue to be offended, it means its working
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Old 03-28-2014, 07:40 PM   #2
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Old 03-28-2014, 11:04 PM   #3
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLccCsTGNP4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMbnzl7Fj6w


I still say if they all just ate a damn Mentos, everything would work itself out.
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Old 03-28-2014, 11:06 PM   #4
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9d6rnC0U4T8

Dan just needs to believe in "himsmelf"
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Old 04-01-2014, 09:55 AM   #5
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Re: Redskins' Dan Snyder Announces Creation of Foundation to Help Native Americans

kind of a side track but i was sitting with my brother watching the Os game and we were talking sports and he said that he sees the skins changing their name in 3 years or so and he might not stay a washington dc football fan.

weird to think about changing teams but if the DS isnt going anywhere anytime soon and if someone just really hates what the DS has done and represents then ... i could see people choosing not to support the washington zards or whatever they will be called.
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Old 04-01-2014, 10:24 AM   #6
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kind of a side track but i was sitting with my brother watching the Os game and we were talking sports and he said that he sees the skins changing their name in 3 years or so and he might not stay a washington dc football fan. weird to think about changing teams but if the DS isnt going anywhere anytime soon and if someone just really hates what the DS has done and represents then ... i could see people choosing not to support the washington zards or whatever they will be called.
Sorry thats effing weak. Question why is he offended now? Strange that someone would be fan all this time of a racist, insensative franchise...
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Old 04-01-2014, 11:00 AM   #7
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Sorry thats effing weak. Question why is he offended now? Strange that someone would be fan all this time of a racist, insensative franchise...
it has nothing to do with any sensitivity to the name .. its actually quite the opposite.

if and when the skins do change names, I could see people like him seeing it as an opportunity to cut ties. really it comes down to not liking the owner, fed ex field and not really associating with the DC yuppy/stuffy fan base vs the ravens who have a solid well run organization and down to earth fans.

for me .. going to skins games at fed ex really kinda sucks on all levels (cost, crappy parking, lots of bad seats, fans telling you to sit down when the skins are on D, etc..). i dont think i could switch. personally i dont think he would actually be able to go through with it either.

but if the skins continue to suck over the next few years and then have to change names .. i could see a noticeable segment of fans leaving the B&G.

i just thought it was interesting that he would even talk about an escape route. he is no fair weather skins fan.
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it has nothing to do with any sensitivity to the name .. its actually quite the opposite.

if and when the skins do change names, I could see people like him seeing it as an opportunity to cut ties. really it comes down to not liking the owner, fed ex field and not really associating with the DC yuppy/stuffy fan base vs the ravens who have a solid well run organization and down to earth fans.

for me .. going to skins games at fed ex really kinda sucks on all levels (cost, crappy parking, lots of bad seats, fans telling you to sit down when the skins are on D, etc..). i dont think i could switch. personally i dont think he would actually be able to go through with it either.

but if the skins continue to suck over the next few years and then have to change names .. i could see a noticeable segment of fans leaving the B&G.

i just thought it was interesting that he would even talk about an escape route. he is no fair weather skins fan.
A name change would definitely create an instant opportunity for me to emotionally detach myself from Snyder and his renamed team. The Redskins would in essence become a team I use to love and support that moved to another city. I would be free from Snyder and the shitty deal he has been offering fans since he became an owner.

There is no shame in wanting more from your team and moving on doesn't make you less of a fan. I will always be a Redskins fan much in the same way I will always be a Sonics fan.
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Redskins nickname issue too divisive for sudden change - Sporting News
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Old 04-01-2014, 08:33 PM   #10
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Re: Redskins' Dan Snyder Announces Creation of Foundation to Help Native Americans

If true this would certainly go a long way towards making the case of the name not being a racial slur, at least in terms of its orgins:
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"There are some that give the term Redskin a negative connotation— to indicate that it was created by the white man to offend the Indians— but in reality the term ‘Redskins’ came from the Indians,” he said. “And they referred to themselves oftentimes— in treaty negotiations, in meetings with the early settlers —as ‘Redskins.’ So it’s not a term that the white man created; it’s actually a term that the Indians themselves created.
Regardless always able to count on good stuff from Ross Tucker.
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Edit; didn't see the article already posted, my bad. Probably time to update my version of Tapatalk.

Really good article though.


Good read from Ross Tucker

http://beta.sportingnews.com/article...ww.google.com/
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