Redskins Sign DeSean Jackson

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by artmonkforhallofamein07

I would like to see Williams and Gettis get a shot to make contributions.

I keep hoping for Williams because he's a little speedy guy. But I'm not sure how much upside he actually has.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Great article. Seems like I have read something similar a million times.

NFL DeSean Jackson signing risky at best - ESPN

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Just heard that Desean Jacksons pop warner team was the Redskins.

[That Guy]

how much do you think a WR we draft is going to develop when his cap here is as our #4? he'll be lucky to see 8 snaps a game. and our track record of developing WRs is also pretty terrible. I just don't see why so many people are cutting bait on the WRs we have that have actually caught balls in real games for guys they can't even name that aren't even on the roster.

maybe when they do something in (at least) a preseason game it'd be worth a discussion, but the odds are low and the difference they make over the next 3 years is probably very close to none.

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Originally Posted by That Guy

how much do you think a WR we draft is going to develop when his cap here is as our #4? he'll be lucky to see 8 snaps a game. and our track record of developing WRs is also pretty terrible. I just don't see why so many people are cutting bait on the WRs we have that have actually caught balls in real games for guys they can't even name that aren't even on the roster.



maybe when they do something in (at least) a preseason game it'd be worth a discussion, but the odds are low and the difference they make over the next 3 years is probably very close to none.

If there is a wr they are very high on available in the draft than maybe they pull the trigger. Dont forget injuries do happen. Again I think it would have to be a guy they are really high on. Also maybe he is a ST contributor.
That being said I cannot see us drafting a wr. Personally I want to keep Hank as the number four. Also i dont think it is our track record of developing wr's as much as it was just missing on them. If it was a case of untapped potential they would have flourished elsewhere.

[CRedskinsRule]

we have two years, where young guys can come in, learn behind top talent, and be evaluated by our staff. That reps they get come in the meaningless games. Those reps do nothing for Hankerson or Robinson, they are who they are. If you get two young guys or more in the undrafted ranks, in this a particularly deep WR draft (so everybody says), then they get two offseasons, 1 preseason, this year, with no pressure just focusing on learning and improving. Next year you bring another guy in, hopefully one of the two this year has something, if not then move on.

People harp on how we haven't developed WR's which is true. But that's because we draft them and throw them in thinking they have to be the guys. If you want to develop a skill player in the NFL, most of the time you have to let them cut their teeth in training camp and preseason then let them start pushing the older guys.

But no, let's keep Hankerson and Robinson, they will not be good enough next year to supplant 1-3, and so we will let them go because we aren't going to commit long term to them after 4 years of less then stellar results. The following year, when Garcon and DJax are looking at other offers, we will be stuck drafting out of need, and not for development.

Good plan.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

we have two years, where young guys can come in, learn behind top talent, and be evaluated by our staff. That reps they get come in the meaningless games. Those reps do nothing for Hankerson or Robinson, they are who they are. If you get two young guys or more in the undrafted ranks, in this a particularly deep WR draft (so everybody says), then they get two offseasons, 1 preseason, this year, with no pressure just focusing on learning and improving. Next year you bring another guy in, hopefully one of the two this year has something, if not then move on.

People harp on how we haven't developed WR's which is true. But that's because we draft them and throw them in thinking they have to be the guys. If you want to develop a skill player in the NFL, most of the time you have to let them cut their teeth in training camp and preseason then let them start pushing the older guys.

But no, let's keep Hankerson and Robinson, they will not be good enough next year to supplant 1-3, and so we will let them go because we aren't going to commit long term to them after 4 years of less then stellar results. The following year, when Garcon and DJax are looking at other offers, we will be stuck drafting out of need, and not for development.

Good plan.

yeah, cause we're really getting rid of garcon, jackson, and roberts next year with the 3 year contracts they all have. and i really said that hankerson was going to be our #1. thanks for implying things that were never said and great argument, but next time, try using facts.

or at least seeing what was written. if someone comes in here and blows it up, great. but saying you KNOW they will and hank/robinson WILL be cut is silly. show me some results first. let's not make assumptions, that based on history, are very low probability.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by That Guy

yeah, cause we're really getting rid of garcon, jackson, and roberts next year with the 3 year contracts they all have. and i really said that hankerson was going to be our #1. thanks for implying things that were never said and great argument, but next time, try using facts.

or at least seeing what was written. if someone comes in here and blows it up, great. but saying you KNOW they will and hank/robinson WILL be cut is silly. show me some results first. let's not make assumptions, that based on history, are very low probability.

Sorry if I implied things, but to that end my whole point is that we are definitely NOT getting rid of Garcon, DJax or Roberts next year. Since that is an absolute fact (barring injury or some catastrophe), why not take this year to bring in guys and let them learn. Why keep day old bread that is just ok, and will go stale before you use it (Hank/Robinson w/expiring contracts), when you can bring in new fresh bread(4th round or later picks), and see if that bread could be a new favorite.

I have no idea whether anybody will be cut, I am only saying what I would like to see, because as everyone know our history at the wide receiver position isn't a very good one.

[warriorzpath]

I'm torn a bit with the wide receivers, the draft, and who the Redskins should keep.

Like Aldrick Robinson. If you keep him and his speed, this may be a package that opposing defenses may fear and would need to account for: Robinson, DeSean Jackson, Garcon, and Jordan Reed on field at the same time. Which one do you double or bracket? At the very least Robinson should get behind the defense in this formation. If he can catch it consistently, this would be unstoppable.

[jdlea]

Heads up: Sportscenter is running an exclusive Stephen A. Smith - DeSean Jackson interview tonight at 6 pm.

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Originally Posted by jdlea

Heads up: Sportscenter is running an exclusive Stephen A. Smith - DeSean Jackson interview tonight at 6 pm.

Cool thanks man

[Paintrain]

Barring injury you have to think that Garçon, Jackson, Roberts and probably a draft pick (4th or 5th rounder) are locks. Robinson and Hankerson are probably competing for one spot. Williams and Gettis will compete for likely a final roster spot.

Moss is a tough one. One argument is that his projected production is minimal at this point and unless he's the punt returner, he may not have a role on the field or team. So then do you bring him back in the 'Rex Grossman' role, on the 53 but mostly around for leadership and guidance? Probably inactive on game day but a valuable member of the team nonetheless.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

Barring injury you have to think that Garçon, Jackson, Roberts and probably a draft pick (4th or 5th rounder) are locks. Robinson and Hankerson are probably competing for one spot. Williams and Gettis will compete for likely a final roster spot.

Moss is a tough one. One argument is that his projected production is minimal at this point and unless he's the punt returner, he may not have a role on the field or team. So then do you bring him back in the 'Rex Grossman' role, on the 53 but mostly around for leadership and guidance? Probably inactive on game day but a valuable member of the team nonetheless.

I'd give Moss the opportunity to find quality playing time elsewhere instead of making him a weekly inactive here.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

Barring injury you have to think that Garçon, Jackson, Roberts and probably a draft pick (4th or 5th rounder) are locks. Robinson and Hankerson are probably competing for one spot. Williams and Gettis will compete for likely a final roster spot.

Moss is a tough one. One argument is that his projected production is minimal at this point and unless he's the punt returner, he may not have a role on the field or team. So then do you bring him back in the 'Rex Grossman' role, on the 53 but mostly around for leadership and guidance? Probably inactive on game day but a valuable member of the team nonetheless.

I agree that Hankerson and Robinson are competing for one spot at this point.

I still think they'll draft a receiver at some point on day three who can assist on special teams for a year while waiting to move up on the depth chart due to injuries (although probably a healthy inactive with the top four available). The sixth receiver figures to be Josh Bellamy or someone who is a true specialist. Not a guy who figures to be in the receiver rotation.

I'm not sure where Jackson-Garcon-Roberts would rank in terms of NFL receiving depth charts, but I think you have to go back to the Norv days to find a comparable group for the Redskins. 1999 at least. Maybe not quite top ten in the NFL, but best Washington receiver group in 15 years.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I agree that Hankerson and Robinson are competing for one spot at this point.

I still think they'll draft a receiver at some point on day three who can assist on special teams for a year while waiting to move up on the depth chart due to injuries (although probably a healthy inactive with the top four available). The sixth receiver figures to be Josh Bellamy or someone who is a true specialist. Not a guy who figures to be in the receiver rotation.

I'm not sure where Jackson-Garcon-Roberts would rank in terms of NFL receiving depth charts, but I think you have to go back to the Norv days to find a comparable group for the Redskins. 1999 at least. Maybe not quite top ten in the NFL, but best Washington receiver group in 15 years.

Tripp, they top 10.

I know you liked that Desean move and to follow that up with Colt? Come on Tripp, credit is due. And the contract for Desean?