Paintrain's all encompassing 'discuss all things offseason' thread (Version 2.0)

[KI Skins Fan]

The bad things that Winston has been accused of doing should not be not be euphemistically dismissed as immature or stupid actions. They should be identified as what they are - crimes. He has been accused of crimes.

As a 20 year-old he could be a married father or a soldier in combat, so please don't call him a kid either. He is a young man who, as an adult, is responsible for his own actions.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

The bad things that Winston has been accused of doing should not be not be euphemistically dismissed as immature or stupid actions. They should be identified as what they are - crimes. He has been accused of crimes.

As a 20 year-old he could be a married father or a soldier in combat, so please don't call him a kid either. He is a young man who, as an adult, is responsible for his own actions.

true, but still...it is college.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

true, but still...it is college.

I don't care if it is college or a retirement home, stupid is stupid.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

I don't care if it is college or a retirement home, stupid is stupid.

not arguing its not stupid, im talking more about scope.

[SirLK26]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

The bad things that Winston has been accused of doing should not be not be euphemistically dismissed as immature or stupid actions. They should be identified as what they are - crimes. He has been accused of crimes.

As a 20 year-old he could be a married father or a soldier in combat, so please don't call him a kid either. He is a young man who, as an adult, is responsible for his own actions.

True, they're crimes, and perhaps I shouldn't dismiss them so easily. But he hasn't reached Ben Roethlisberger's or even Ray Lewis' stupid level yet, and we don't know if he ever will. Shoplifting crab legs just isn't the same as sexually assaulting someone and then giving them a huge check to shut up about it. I hesitate to call shoplifting petty, because it is a crime and could potentially lead to worse, but.... Until Winston commits a major crime, or shows a pattern of this behavior when he's older, I will continue to support him.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by SirLK26

True, they're crimes, and perhaps I shouldn't dismiss them so easily. But he hasn't reached Ben Roethlisberger's or even Ray Lewis' stupid level yet, and we don't know if he ever will. Shoplifting crab legs just isn't the same as sexually assaulting someone and then giving them a huge check to shut up about it. I hesitate to call shoplifting petty, because it is a crime and could potentially lead to worse, but.... Until Winston commits a major crime, or shows a pattern of this behavior when he's older, I will continue to support him.

Was Big Ben charged?

[SirLK26]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

Was Big Ben charged?

No charges were filed either time. He settled with the first woman out of court, and the lady involved in the second incident decided to not pursue criminal charges because of the media coverage. Innocent until proven guilty, right?

[Lotus]

When I was in college I got back to the car at the supermarket to find an acquaintance had stolen a bunch of steaks. I was not involved and never condoned it. But as dumb as it was (especially since we shared a car so he endangered me), it was not a big deal, just a young, stupid mistake.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Lotus

When I was in college I got back to the car at the supermarket to find an acquaintance had stolen a bunch of steaks. I was not involved and never condoned it. But as dumb as it was (especially since we shared a car so he endangered me), it was not a big deal, just a young, stupid mistake.

Could not help but think of this ....

Animal_House Flounder at the Supermarket - YouTube

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Lotus

When I was in college I got back to the car at the supermarket to find an acquaintance had stolen a bunch of steaks. I was not involved and never condoned it. But as dumb as it was (especially since we shared a car so he endangered me), it was not a big deal, just a young, stupid mistake.

They were good right?

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

They were good right?

No, they we low-grade thin steaks. He was not going with crab legs or anything else bulky. And I didn't eat any. But he later traded some of the steaks for a doobie which I may or may not have shared.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

The bad things that Winston has been accused of doing should not be not be euphemistically dismissed as immature or stupid actions. They should be identified as what they are - crimes. He has been accused of crimes.

As a 20 year-old he could be a married father or a soldier in combat, so please don't call him a kid either. He is a young man who, as an adult, is responsible for his own actions.

While I certainly agree with your point about being responsible I could argue that just because he is twenty doesn't mean he is not still a kid in some aspects. It has been going on for decades, collage students do stupid stuff sometimes .

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

The bad things that Winston has been accused of doing should not be not be euphemistically dismissed as immature or stupid actions. They should be identified as what they are - crimes. He has been accused of crimes.

As a 20 year-old he could be a married father or a soldier in combat, so please don't call him a kid either. He is a young man who, as an adult, is responsible for his own actions.

Yeah I agree. Trouble seems to be following him around and usually where there's smoke, there's fire. He seems like a very immature 20 year old. If this is happening in college then what's he going to act like with millions? Well, at least he'll be able to afford crab legs!

[Gary84Clark]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Yeah I agree. Trouble seems to be following him around and usually where there's smoke, there's fire. He seems like a very immature 20 year old. If this is happening in college then what's he going to act like with millions? Well, at least he'll be able to afford crab legs!

It does not matter because he is that good. If he was on the bubble that would do him in. He is too good, shop lifting is not big enough to derail him.

[skinsfanthru&thru]

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