Reaction to Draft: exceeds, meets, or meh

[SouperMeister]

I take a show me approach, especially when we trade down from our first pick. When we traded out of the first round with Atlanta in 2008, we got two 2008 second round picks (#34-Devin Thomas) (#48-Fred Davis), 2008 fourth round pick (#103-William Hayes), while Atlanto got our first round pick (#21-Sam Baker), 2008 third round pick (#84-Harry Douglas), 2008 fifth round pick (#154-Kroy Biermann). Atlanta came away with a starting OT and a solid #3 receiver - they won that trade.

I feel that Shanahan did especially poorly trading out of the #10 pick in 2011 for the #16 (Kerrigan) and #49 (which was traded down further to net Hankerson, Gomes, and M. Hurt. Getting more bodies can be good, and Kerrigan is a very good player, but we could have had either J.J. Watt or Robert Quinn at #10, both of whom are elite defenders now. Too often when teams get cute and trade down in the first round, they miss on elite talent. Regarding Watt and Quinn, read this and weep: http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-sh...175558487.html

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SouperMeister

I take a show me approach, especially when we trade down from our first pick. When we traded out of the first round with Atlanta in 2008, we got two 2008 second round picks (#34-Devin Thomas) (#48-Fred Davis), 2008 fourth round pick (#103-William Hayes), while Atlanto got our first round pick (#21-Sam Baker), 2008 third round pick (#84-Harry Douglas), 2008 fifth round pick (#154-Kroy Biermann). Atlanta came away with a starting OT and a solid #3 receiver - they won that trade.

I feel that Shanahan did especially poorly trading out of the #10 pick in 2011 for the #16 (Kerrigan) and #49 (which was traded down further to net Hankerson, Gomes, and M. Hurt. Getting more bodies can be good, and Kerrigan is a very good player, but we could have had either J.J. Watt or Robert Quinn at #10, both of whom are elite defenders now. Too often when teams get cute and trade down in the first round, they miss on elite talent. Regarding Watt and Quinn, read this and weep: http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-sh...175558487.html

Yeah, Kerrigan is a solid player but not on their level. Hindsight is 20/20.

[Irrefutable]

Redskins cut Tommy Rees

Sign:

S Ross Madison 6-1 200 4.53 Toledo

DB Courtney Bridgett 6-3 176 4.55 6 BP
CB Blake Sailors Georgia 28 tackles in 4 seasons
DT Frank Kearse Alabama A+T 6-4 315 5.3

if these are the best of the unsigned players it was a weak group

[Bucket]

Making a call right now.

If Orakpo gets hurt this year. He will NEVER win his job back from Murphy. The guy is going to be great. I don't make predictions very often, but this is one I will make.

[Irrefutable]

Originally Posted by Bucket

Making a call right now.

If Orakpo gets hurt this year. He will NEVER win his job back from Murphy. The guy is going to be great. I don't make predictions very often, but this is one I will make.

reportedly Murphy played well in mini-camp

[backrow]

I've been checking different sources for our draft grades. I'm not an ESPN insider, so I wasn't able to see that one. On the three I could see, there was a B, C+, and a D. You can name them if you like, but no one is an expert at seeing the future. On Thewarpath.net, you've probably got as good, or better assessment as anywhere else. With the new coaching staff, there is no way to predict how our newbies are going to stack up. The puzzle for me is I couldn't tell you anything about any draft picks or udfas beforehand. I only know what is written about them, and of course news from camps. I only follow 2 college fb teams, and that limits my exposure to potential pro players and I have a limited number of brain cells to spare.

[skinsfaninok]

Off topic but I really liked Cleveland's draft, they will surprise some folks next season

[SirLK26]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Off topic but I really liked Cleveland's draft, they will surprise some folks next season

I thought Arizona did a nice job as well...for the second year in a row.

San Diego had a good draft too.

[Bangee7]

the more I hear and think about the draft, the higher grade I want to give it. I remember the old days when the 'skins would always had bodies stashed away on IR for a year or two to let them develop.

I know this is a real-time, always connected world, but I still think the bets way to build a winner is to address glaring needs in FA & build depth/up-and-comers through the draft.

I think that's exactly what we're witnessing.

'Skins are off to a good start toward that long term winner that we've all been waiting for.

[warriorzpath]

Solid B draft. Could be an A draft depending on the potential and expectations they meet or exceed.

They picked up 2 players that they already seem to like in Murphy and Spencer Long. And they should contribute one way or another in year one. They are hopeful in 2 players that could develop into major starters/contributors - Moses and Seastrunk. Ryan Grant was already described by Gruden as looking like a 10 year vet in certain aspects of his route running in rookie minicamp. Corner Breeland has the physical tools and attitude to be competitive and at the very least will contribute on special teams. Even the kicker in the 7th round will be given every opportunity to challenge Kai Forbaith for his spot.

And some of the UDFAs may make the roster and also contribute. I'm especially interested with the NTs/DTs and DBs.

So this draft will not be a bust by any means. This seemed to be a blue collar draft that picked up several role players that will contribute with the potential to be impact players. This is the draft that the Redskins have needed for awhile.

[warriorzpath]

... a lot of these draft picks and UDFAs will replace several underperformers and players who were just completely overwhelmed on the NFL level last season. And just a thought - Orakpo, you can learn a lot from Trent Murphy on "proving" yourself and not being complacent.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

... a lot of these draft picks and UDFAs will replace several underperformers and players who were just completely overwhelmed on the NFL level last season. And just a thought - Orakpo, you can learn a lot from Trent Murphy on "proving" yourself and not being complacent.

Rak hasn't proved himself?

[Gary84Clark]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Rak hasn't proved himself?

Yet on the same token Kirk cousins has proven he is an NFL caliber starter. lol !!!!!!!

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Gary84Clark

Yet on the same token Kirk cousins has proven he is an NFL caliber starter. lol !!!!!!!

Enough crazy train for one stop please

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Rak hasn't proved himself?

It's not really a judgement call to debate. It's more about his attitude when he said it (not having to prove anything). A true competitor is always driven by "proving" themselves to try to be the best. Orakpo is good, but he always had the potential to be much greater.