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[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

To me the calculus is even simpler than that. If Sam Bradford isn't a franchise QB, and I am starting to think he definitely isn't, then the Rams lost the trade. They could have had RG3 for themselves.

Who says RGIII is a franchise QB? Beyond one year in a gimmicky offense, what has he shown you that leads you to believe he's a franchise QB? It's a bit premature to be calling him one right now. Let's give it a couple more years.

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I don't see how any Skins fans who lived through the great lost decade could see the RG3 trade as anything but a win for us especially when compared with the players the Rams used their picks on. That isn't a knock on any player they took, or groups of players, but moreso a reflection that the Skins had all those players in some way shape or form. We had Chris Samuels, Champ,even Lavar and on and on. But in this league, at this time, a qb is not the same as all of those positions combined, it's the glue that holds the rest together. Or the frosting that ties the layers of the cake together.

This mindset is exactly why we'll continue to be a bad team and why GMs will continue being driven by their egos instead of using intelligence. Listen, one of the top GMs in the NFL is telling you that it's somewhat based off of luck, and that the more picks you have, the higher chance you have at succeeding.

I hear time and time again from Skins fans..."why can't we be like the Ravens, Patriots or Steelers?" When is the last time you've seen any of those teams give up a ton of picks for one player in the draft? If anything, you see these teams move down in the draft to collect more. It's not just about having better scouts, it's about having more chances. I'm not saying that scouting doesn't play a part, but for the majority of it, more picks means higher chance of landing studs. Which would you rather have? One lottery ticket or ten? That one may be a dude as well as the ten lottery picks, but it's about giving you the best chance. It's a numbers game.

Also, to counter the point in bold. The past two super bowl winners were won with teams with so-so QBs. Russell Wilson and Joe Flaaco are no world beaters to say the least.

[Giantone]

So he showed a pic of Eli and one of Rivers and said it wasn't worth it or the Chargers made out on the deal ,how? Rivers while better season stats ,hasn't had a whiff of a super bowl ,while Eli on the other hand has brought the Giants 2 ,intangibles and chemistry ,two things that people still don't think matter .

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by Giantone

while Eli on the other hand has brought the Giants 2 ,intangibles and chemistry ,two things that people still don't think matter .

Just like Trent Dilfer brought the Ravens a superbowl, right?

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by HailGreen28

Just like Trent Dilfer brought the Ravens a superbowl, right?

Whatever helps you sleep at night .

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Whatever helps you sleep at night .

Likewise, interception lover.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by HailGreen28

Likewise, interception lover.

I'll take his Super Bowls along with the INT's any day ,others would also .

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by Giantone

I'll take his Super Bowls along with the INT's any day ,others would also .

Just like Trent Dilfer. Wait, was Dilfer as interception prone as She-li?

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Who says RGIII is a franchise QB? Beyond one year in a gimmicky offense, what has he shown you that leads you to believe he's a franchise QB? It's a bit premature to be calling him one right now. Let's give it a couple more years.

Fair point. I am operating under the assumption he is - because the only year that he didn't show franchise QB qualities was the one in which he was recovering from a devastating knee injury. Excuse, maybe. But if he looks dynamite again this year now that he's healthy, everyone and his brother will firmly believe he's a bonafide franchise guy.

But you're right, until that happens it's early to jump the gun.

In general I agree with the notion that more picks = better. But the one exception to that is QB, I believe. Transcendant QBs can be worth giving up multiple picks because of the significance of their position.