Projected Lineup... Your thoughts?

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

Yeah I have heard that about almost every draft pick ever.

But starting the whole right side of the line with rookies from day 1? I don't see it. Maybe ease them in after a few games. If people are worried about getting RGIII hurt it seems like starting two rookies on the line next to each other from game 1 is a good way to make that happen.

[sevier2]

Originally Posted by SkinzWin

But starting the whole right side of the line with rookies from day 1? I don't see it. Maybe ease them in after a few games. If people are worried about getting RGIII hurt it seems like starting two rookies on the line next to each other from game 1 is a good way to make that happen.

This is my thought exactly. Yes, by year two it definitely should be Long/Moses on the right side of the line (unless Long plays LG), but year 1 I don't see it.

These guys were drafted THIRD round for a reason. If we had two first round picks or a high second (Like we had this year but couldn't use) then maybe they both start. Until then you put out veterans to at least soften the blow on the right side.

The way I see it playing out is either Moses OR Long start by mid season, I don't know who but one of them will. Then a few weeks later say Week 12-14 you put in the other one. That way by year 2 they both have game experience and can work in the off season with a steady grasp of NFL level play.

The only question now is who will adjust to the NFL faster Long or Moses.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by sevier2

This is my thought exactly. Yes, by year two it definitely should be Long/Moses on the right side of the line (unless Long plays LG), but year 1 I don't see it.

These guys were drafted THIRD round for a reason. If we had two first round picks or a high second (Like we had this year but couldn't use) then maybe they both start. Until then you put out veterans to at least soften the blow on the right side.

The way I see it playing out is either Moses OR Long start by mid season, I don't know who but one of them will. Then a few weeks later say Week 12-14 you put in the other one. That way by year 2 they both have game experience and can work in the off season with a steady grasp of NFL level play.

The only question now is who will adjust to the NFL faster Long or Moses.

Where you are drafted means nothing. The Bears had a OL drafted in the 6th who played all year. If you can play, you can play, Regardless where you are picked.

[NYCskinfan82]

Best man starts IMO.

[Defensewins]

Haslett really wants increase the use of player packages/rotation system on defense to keep players fresh. Wholesale player changes from 3-4 package to nickle/dime packages. Especially on the defensive line.
I say this because being named "starter" does not mean you will play a lot or more than some of "the backups" on the D-line. Depending on who we play, whether the opponent is a running team, passing team or balanced, or what situation they are in will dictate how much a certain player play.
For the base 3-4 defense geared to stop running/balanced teams for example, I see a D-line rotation of:
- Jarvis Jenkins, Stephen Bowen, Jason Hatcher and Chris Baker at DE
- Barry Cofield, Chris Baker and Chris Neild at NT
I see saving Jason Hatcher more as a pass rush DE/DT in the Nickle and dime packages (4 man lines), instead of tiring him out playing the run at 3-4 DE. Hatcher excelled more on on 4 man lines then he did on 3 man line. That is why I think Jenkins, Bowen and Baker will play more 3-4 DE in obvious run situations. Not Hatcher.
I also heard they might experiment with Hatcher at pass rush OLB on obvious pass plays. So he would exclusively rush the passer not go out in coverage if he played 3-4 OLB on occasion. Of course the development of OLB's Trent Murphy and Brandon Jenkins will play into whether Hatcher is ever tries OLB in a game.

[TenandSix:Unacceptable]

One of Moses or Long will be starting week 1.

Book it.

[TenandSix:Unacceptable]

Regarding Offensive lines in general it's a good idea to have continuity in season with that group so I would think whoever wins a job in training camp/preseason will keep it barring injury or obvious struggles.

So I don't see the whole "work them in mid season" plan happening.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

I would hope that whoever wins the job throughout camp and the preseason keeps it till the end of the season. If not, then the player is performing poorly and we probably aren't playing very well.

How many winning teams shuffle linemen in the middle of the year? Maybe the Ravens did it a couple of years ago (Super Bowl year?), but I could be wrong.

[Bangee7]

All the 1st hand accounts I've seen so far seem to think that Moses will need more time, but that Long could seriously challenge.

If both are ready, I'm fine with them both starting.

Sort of reminds me of the '81 skins when they started 2 rookies at Guard....next to a first time starter at Center. That turned out OK.

Hail!

[diehardskin2982]

I would like to see the o-line become:

LT: T. Williams
LG: Shawn Lauvao
C: Josh Leribeus
RG: Spencer Long
RT: Moses Morgan

The sooner we get this line up on the field, the better. Give them time to develop and play with each other in real action. Stop shelving young talent.

[NYCskinfan82]

Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

I would like to see the o-line become:

LT: T. Williams
LG: Shawn Lauvao
C: Josh Leribeus
RG: Spencer Long
RT: Moses Morgan

The sooner we get this line up on the field, the better. Give them time to develop and play with each other in real action. Stop shelving young talent.

I would love a OL like that.

[Alvin Walton]

Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

I would like to see the o-line become:

LT: T. Williams
LG: Shawn Lauvao
C: Josh Leribeus
RG: Spencer Long
RT: Moses Morgan

The sooner we get this line up on the field, the better. Give them time to develop and play with each other in real action. Stop shelving young talent.

I dunno...a football kinda looks like a meatloaf, I doubt LeRibeus would let go of it.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

I dunno...a football kinda looks like a meatloaf, I doubt LeRibeus would let go of it.

What type of football-shaped meatballs have you been eating?

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

I would like to see the o-line become:

LT: T. Williams
LG: Shawn Lauvao
C: Josh Leribeus
RG: Spencer Long
RT: Moses Morgan

The sooner we get this line up on the field, the better. Give them time to develop and play with each other in real action. Stop shelving young talent.

Id like us to pick up a veteran at center. someone to call out the line shifts, responsibilities, clear communication w RG3. someone should become avail.

Until RG3 learns to successfully read a D pre-snap and make correct audibles and call out protections, I want to smartest available guy doing that for us and I dont think montgomery or lerib is that guy.

Center and MLB are the 2 spots I want on-field coaches manning.

[SirLK26]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

Id like us to pick up a veteran at center. someone to call out the line shifts, responsibilities, clear communication w RG3. someone should become avail.

Until RG3 learns to successfully read a D pre-snap and make correct audibles and call out protections, I want to smartest available guy doing that for us and I dont think montgomery or lerib is that guy.

Center and MLB are the 2 spots I want on-field coaches manning.

Well, you won't have to worry about Montgomery as he's with the Broncos now, and probably not Leribeus either since center is pretty much Lichtensteiger's job to lose. And while we haven't seen much of him at center in the pros, he was praised before the draft for his high football IQ and how well he did at making the calls on the line. I'm totally fine with starting him at center; his great run-blocking skills will be used well there, while his poor pass-blocking won't hurt so much.