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[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

Well no doubt its solid and I genuinely believe that if Bradford stays healthy the trade will be one of the few win-wins in NFL history. However in terms of the players the Rams got, the way I feel is we've kind of had that caliber of players before and the best that happened was we eeked into the playoffs (Chris Samuals, Shawn Springs, Marcus Washington, Cornelius Griffin, and Randle-El (728 Yards in 07)). So it would be great to have those types of players but without a QB we wouldn't be a serious contender.

Granted again its not an apples to apples comparison as the Rams guys are younger not to mention different kinds of players but I honestly feel that the two most critical elements to winning a Super Bowl in this day and age are a top flight QB and Defense. And as tough as it is to put together an elite defense finding a QB the caliber of RG3 is exponentially harder.

I mean not to diminish the Seahawks scouting department but that number 1 ranked defense is essentially filled with guys who were no bodies going into the league. Some developed into elite pro bowlers like Sherman while many others have found great fits as rotational role players.

This is where we see it differently. I didn't see RG3, as a pro prospect, head and shoulders above Wilson, Foles, Tannehill or even Cousins.

[Gary84Clark]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

This is where we see it differently. I didn't see RG3, as a pro prospect, head and shoulders above Wilson, Foles, Tannehill or even Cousins.

we know you want cousin to be our QB , glad you not in charge.

[SirLK26]

Originally Posted by Gary84Clark

we know you want cousin to be our QB , glad you not in charge.

This.

RG3's superior intangibles, arm strength, accuracy, and athleticism made him a far better pro prospect than Foles and Cousins for sure. Tannehill wasn't that far behind, and Wilson would've been closer if he had another 3 inches(in height, dummy ), but RG3 and Luck were two of the best QB prospects to be drafted in a long time.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SirLK26

This.

RG3's superior intangibles, arm strength, accuracy, and athleticism made him a far better pro prospect than Foles and Cousins for sure. Tannehill wasn't that far behind, and Wilson would've been closer if he had another 3 inches(in height, dummy ), but RG3 and Luck were two of the best QB prospects to be drafted in a long time.

Foles was in hunt for MVP last year. Just sayin'

[SirLK26]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Foles was in hunt for MVP last year. Just sayin'

Not only did he have one of the top offensive lines in the NFL, a 1300 yard receiver, a 1600 yard back, and a great TE, but he plays in an offensive system that makes QBs look better than they really are.

[calia]

Foles struggling will be a big storyline of the NFC East this year. And by struggling, I mean that he will look like an above average QB but won't have insane numbers like last year (that's not something that anyone in his right mind should expect to repeat). I think teams will adjust and bring a lot more pressure, as I think he will struggle with it (as many of the best QBs do) and he's not terribly mobile.

The NFC East team (outside of the Redskins) that I think will be interesting to watch is the Giants -- a LOT of personnel changes on both sides of the ball. Dallas doesn't look to be much different -- will have a bad secondary, not muchy of a running game, but will throw for a lot of yards, and the Eagles will be in the mix too. But I have no idea what to expect from the Giants.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SirLK26

Not only did he have one of the top offensive lines in the NFL, a 1300 yard receiver, a 1600 yard back, and a great TE, but he plays in an offensive system that makes QBs look better than they really are.

This post ridiculous. He still had to make accurate throws, which he did. If Griffin has the kind of year Foles did throwing the ball from the pocket, are we going to say it's because of the weapons he has? No. Give the guy credit. He played great last year. He got Riley Cooper a big contract. And I don't see Jimmy Graham on the Eagles roster.

[SirLK26]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

This post ridiculous. He still had to make accurate throws, which he did. If Griffin has the kind of year Foles did throwing the ball from the pocket, are we going to say it's because of the weapons he has? No. Give the guy credit. He played great last year. He got Riley Cooper a big contract. And I don't see Jimmy Graham on the Eagles roster.

Foles is a decent QB with a decent arm, but any QB can succeed behind an O-line like the Eagles'. When you can sleep on the decision of who to throw the ball to, your job as a QB is a lot easier. And you can't deny the fact that playing in Kelly's type of offense and having a great cast of talent around him helped his stats a lot.

Since you dragged Griffin into this, if he has the kind of statistical year that Foles had, I'll give huge props to him. Putting up stats like that with the kind of O-line we'll likely have would require some phenomenal quarterbacking.

BTW, while Celek is no Graham, he is a pretty darn good TE. Not Gronk or Graham, but not Logan Paulsen either.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Gary84Clark

we know you want cousin to be our QB , glad you not in charge.

Actually I don't. I want the best guy behind center. That should be RG3. Right?