What's with the defense.

Daseal · 09-20-2005, 01:41 AM

Though they gave up a lot of yards today they've played great, however, I still have one worry. No sacks and no turnovers forced in two weeks. They don't seem as aggressive or dominant as they were last year. Still play solid, but far too much prevent for my liking. Hey, if they do the job --who cares. Just wondering what others thought.

Hijinx · 09-20-2005, 01:46 AM

The front line isn't getting to the QB that really has me worried. I didnt like how the CBs were always playing like 5 yards of their WRs. However screw it we are 2 and 0 and it feels great.

davy · 09-20-2005, 01:52 AM

Some people are hard to please, 20 points conceded in 2 games (half of which were gift wrapped) isn't too shabby.

redrock-skins · 09-20-2005, 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

Though they gave up a lot of yards today they've played great, however, I still have one worry. No sacks and no turnovers forced in two weeks. They don't seem as aggressive or dominant as they were last year. Still play solid, but far too much prevent for my liking. Hey, if they do the job --who cares. Just wondering what others thought.

Our defense is fine. We fell for one lousy flea-flicker (a good call by Parcells that I never saw coming). If it weren't for them, we would have had zero chance in this game.

saden1 · 09-20-2005, 01:56 AM

The bend but don't break mentality worries me. I'd prefer no bending at all and breaking the other guy's back if possible.

MTK · 09-20-2005, 02:01 AM

I think it has a lot to do with the fact we've faced a couple of really good offensive lines.

gortiz · 09-20-2005, 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I think it has a lot to do with the fact we've faced a couple of really good offensive lines.

You got to remember that Bill Parcells is so good at taking away one aspect of another team, no doubt he spent crazy time working on pass defense, he just didn't work on Roy Williams technique covering posts!!! :headbange

mooby · 09-20-2005, 02:08 AM

i sorta agree with what daseal said. we've only forced one turnover, that was lemar marshall's int vs. the bears, and we didn't have any sacks on dallas. i expect more from this unit in the future. also, why didn't matt bowen start today? he's not injured, did he get beat in a position battle with priouleau or something? and what about lavar, i think he should be starting by now, but i have no doubts he'll be starting in week 4.

Duffman003 · 09-20-2005, 02:10 AM

we have an int and ff with fumble recovery by griffen, but the reason we don't get the turnovers is because our d line. If they can't pressure the quarterback by themselves it's hard to make the quarterback to make bad decisions.

Daseal · 09-20-2005, 02:10 AM

Davy, It's not being hard to please, it's something I noticed vs Chicago, and I noticed it again tonight, I said multiple times our defense is playing great, but we seem different.

I didn't really see Arrington once, did he even really play?

celts32 · 09-20-2005, 02:10 AM

No criticism from me tonight. That defense hung in there for 60 minutes in 100 degree weather carrying an offense that couldn't move the ball an inch.

EternalEnigma21 · 09-20-2005, 02:11 AM

I think we're yet to make anything on the highlight reels on defense, but it'll come. They had nice pass protection and figured on us blitzing all night and we just kept them off kilter. All I know is they had 2 chances to get into field goal range adn couldnt get there. HAIL!!!!

skins052bgr8 · 09-20-2005, 02:17 AM

Dallas scored 24 points against the Chargers and 13 against us. One crazy ass flea flicker that is a fluke that Greg Williams said the defense knew would come, just got beat damn that sucks because the D is stuffing the run again, just missing the big play. Fantasy owners it does not look good, but damn they are GOOD!!!!!!

Hijinx · 09-20-2005, 02:22 AM

Now that I think about you tak away the 1 trick play by Dallas and 2 turnovers deep in our own side and that makes up all of the points against us.

Kope · 09-20-2005, 02:40 AM

I think alot of it was the game plan. Last year we got sacks on the blitz...this year we havent been blitzing...but we are giving up less than 2 scores per game....I think the man has a plan.

Did you notice how the prevent took more time off the clock and forced a shot into the endzone at the end of the game? If everyone is covered the QB takes longer to find a target...it made the difference between field goal range and have to hit the end zone

09-20-2005, 01:41 AM	#1
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	What's with the defense. Though they gave up a lot of yards today they've played great, however, I still have one worry. No sacks and no turnovers forced in two weeks. They don't seem as aggressive or dominant as they were last year. Still play solid, but far too much prevent for my liking. Hey, if they do the job --who cares. Just wondering what others thought. __________________ Best. Player. Available.

09-20-2005, 01:46 AM	#2
Hijinx The Starter Join Date: Apr 2005 Age: 49 Posts: 1,961	Re: What's with the defense. The front line isn't getting to the QB that really has me worried. I didnt like how the CBs were always playing like 5 yards of their WRs. However screw it we are 2 and 0 and it feels great.

09-20-2005, 01:52 AM	#3
davy Impact Rookie Join Date: May 2004 Location: England Posts: 936	Re: What's with the defense. Some people are hard to please, 20 points conceded in 2 games (half of which were gift wrapped) isn't too shabby.

09-20-2005, 01:56 AM	#5
saden1 MVP Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Seattle Age: 45 Posts: 10,069	Re: What's with the defense. The bend but don't break mentality worries me. I'd prefer no bending at all and breaking the other guy's back if possible.

09-20-2005, 02:01 AM	#6
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,518	Re: What's with the defense. I think it has a lot to do with the fact we've faced a couple of really good offensive lines. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

09-20-2005, 02:08 AM	#8
mooby Hug Anne Spyder Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 20,468	Re: What's with the defense. i sorta agree with what daseal said. we've only forced one turnover, that was lemar marshall's int vs. the bears, and we didn't have any sacks on dallas. i expect more from this unit in the future. also, why didn't matt bowen start today? he's not injured, did he get beat in a position battle with priouleau or something? and what about lavar, i think he should be starting by now, but i have no doubts he'll be starting in week 4. __________________ Hail to the Football Team

09-20-2005, 02:10 AM	#9
Duffman003 Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 602	Re: What's with the defense. we have an int and ff with fumble recovery by griffen, but the reason we don't get the turnovers is because our d line. If they can't pressure the quarterback by themselves it's hard to make the quarterback to make bad decisions.

09-20-2005, 02:10 AM	#10
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	Re: What's with the defense. Davy, It's not being hard to please, it's something I noticed vs Chicago, and I noticed it again tonight, I said multiple times our defense is playing great, but we seem different. I didn't really see Arrington once, did he even really play? __________________ Best. Player. Available.

09-20-2005, 02:10 AM	#11
celts32 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hackettstown NJ Age: 53 Posts: 2,665	Re: What's with the defense. No criticism from me tonight. That defense hung in there for 60 minutes in 100 degree weather carrying an offense that couldn't move the ball an inch. __________________ Section 116 Row 19 “Goal line, goal line. I-left, tight wing, 70 chip on white.” www.facebook.com/HackettstownBeerClub

09-20-2005, 02:11 AM	#12
EternalEnigma21 Assistant Regional Mod Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Carbondale CO Age: 44 Posts: 2,958	Re: What's with the defense. I think we're yet to make anything on the highlight reels on defense, but it'll come. They had nice pass protection and figured on us blitzing all night and we just kept them off kilter. All I know is they had 2 chances to get into field goal range adn couldnt get there. HAIL!!!!

09-20-2005, 02:17 AM	#13
skins052bgr8 Special Teams Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Richmond, Va. Age: 49 Posts: 288	Re: What's with the defense. Dallas scored 24 points against the Chargers and 13 against us. One crazy ass flea flicker that is a fluke that Greg Williams said the defense knew would come, just got beat damn that sucks because the D is stuffing the run again, just missing the big play. Fantasy owners it does not look good, but damn they are GOOD!!!!!!

09-20-2005, 02:22 AM	#14
Hijinx The Starter Join Date: Apr 2005 Age: 49 Posts: 1,961	Re: What's with the defense. Now that I think about you tak away the 1 trick play by Dallas and 2 turnovers deep in our own side and that makes up all of the points against us.

09-20-2005, 02:40 AM	#15
Kope Special Teams Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: NC Posts: 447	Re: What's with the defense. I think alot of it was the game plan. Last year we got sacks on the blitz...this year we havent been blitzing...but we are giving up less than 2 scores per game....I think the man has a plan. Did you notice how the prevent took more time off the clock and forced a shot into the endzone at the end of the game? If everyone is covered the QB takes longer to find a target...it made the difference between field goal range and have to hit the end zone

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