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[SirLK26]

Brian Orakpo Makes Appearance On NFL.com’s Indispensable List

Richard Sherman, Luke Kuechly among indispensable defenders - NFL.com

Ehhh...Orakpo's a great player, but the most indispensable we have? Nope. That would be Trent Williams or Robert Griffin lll. We won the division in 2012 without Orakpo, but it wouldn't have happened without Trent or RG. Don't agree with Schein here.

Also, Sherman on that list is a joke. If he had left in FA, Seattle's defense would still be among the best. And I'm surprised Tom Brady wasn't mentioned; NE would be crap without him, especially last year.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by SirLK26

Ehhh...Orakpo's a great player, but the most indispensable we have? Nope. That would be Trent Williams or Robert Griffin lll. We won the division in 2012 without Orakpo, but it wouldn't have happened without Trent or RG. Don't agree with Schein here.

In fairness, they were only talking about defensive players. Given the state of our defense, not sure anyone is "indispensable" but Rak is probably the closest to an indispensable defensive player we have.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

In fairness, they were only talking about defensive players. Given the state of our defense, not sure anyone is "indispensable" but Rak is probably the closest to an indispensable defensive player we have.

I would have said Fletcher .

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Giantone

I would have said Fletcher .

I hope that Fletcher is not "indispensable" since he is retired.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Lotus

I hope that Fletcher is not "indispensable" since he is retired.

Kinda my point while I like your Lbers ,I just don't know if you have found the person to replace Fletcher yet .

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Kinda my point while I like your Lbers ,I just don't know if you have found the person to replace Fletcher yet .

I don't think finding Fletcher's replacement is going to be hard, considering he was awful last year. He hasn't covered a TE in 3 years. Looking forward to seeing some new blood at that position.

[SirLK26]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

In fairness, they were only talking about defensive players. Given the state of our defense, not sure anyone is "indispensable" but Rak is probably the closest to an indispensable defensive player we have.

Yep, I missed that, and now my argument is invalid. Darn.

What would Dirtbag say? Oh yeah. FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

In fairness, they were only talking about defensive players. Given the state of our defense, not sure anyone is "indispensable" but Rak is probably the closest to an indispensable defensive player we have.

I would've probably said DHall since he takes the opponents best WR. The defense played it's best in a while when Rak wasn't on the field ( in 2012) and poorly in 2013, so to me he's not indispensable at all. I want to seE Rak be a difference maker, get a sack to close out a game, get some strip sack fumbles. In other words, make more plays, like Rob Jackson did in 2012.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I would've probably said DHall since he takes the opponents best WR. The defense played it's best in a while when Rak wasn't on the field ( in 2012) and poorly in 2013, so to me he's not indispensable at all. I want to seE Rak be a difference maker, get a sack to close out a game, get some strip sack fumbles. In other words, make more plays, like Rob Jackson did in 2012.

When it is all said and done, I don't think it will be Orakpo who is our best defensive player. (He is the best now and I think we sign him long term) but in the long run I dont think he will be the best.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

When it is all said and done, I don't think it will be Orakpo who is our best defensive player. (He is the best now and I think we sign him long term) but in the long run I dont think he will be the best.

Trick question. The answer is RG3...because the best defense is a good offense

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Trick question. The answer is RG3...because the best defense is a good offense

You sir are always on your game.

[SirLK26]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I would've probably said DHall since he takes the opponents best WR.<snip>

Yeah, I agree with this. Orakpo's the best defensive player we have, but not the most indispensable. That would be DeAngelo Hall. If Orakpo had walked, we'd still have Kerrigan, Murphy, Jackson, and Jenkins at OLB; not exactly bare at that spot. But if DeAngelo were gone, who covers the #1's? 2nd year pro Amerson? Porter? Hall's loss would be devastating.

Edit: That being said, Orakpo is also important to the D. Definitely worth the money he's getting.