Paintrain's all encompassing 'discuss all things offseason' thread (Version 2.0)

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by SirLK26

Well, once you have a franchise QB, or at least something close to one, you really can't just let them walk. Kaepernick did get overpaid, but what was SF supposed to do? Let him walk and start searching for a franchise QB again? It would likely take years to find another, years in which the team ages and loses a lot of talent. It's obvious that SF has been successful with Kaepernick at QB, and whether those wins come because of him or in spite of him, it's working. Plus, he' s only going to get better.

Like others have mentioned, if Kaep gets this much, what's RG3 going to ask for? I hate to think about that...

People use the word "franchise QB" too loosely. He's not a franchise QB at this point and time. Period. The 49ers were just as good with Alex Smith behind the helm which shows you it wasn't the QB responsible for their winning.

The only franchise QBs in this league currently are: Rodgers, Manning, Brady, Brees, Rivers, Romo, Ryan, Roethlisberger........and maybe Stafford.

Others have the potential to be but simply aren't there quite yet.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

People use the word "franchise QB" too loosely. He's not a franchise QB at this point and time. Period. The 49ers were just as good with Alex Smith behind the helm which shows you it wasn't the QB responsible for their winning.

The only franchise QBs in this league currently are: Rodgers, Manning, Brady, Brees, Rivers, Romo, Ryan, Roethlisberger........and maybe Stafford.

Others have the potential to be but simply aren't there quite yet.

I know the QB position is important, but the public in general is a bit tend to overhype certain QBs. Russell Wilson and Kaep are a good example. Both are very good QBs, tons of potential, but both QBs for the most part were not asked to outright win games by themselves the way P. Manning, Brady, and Brees do. Hell, even Flacco carried his team during the playoffs the year they won the SB, even though he didn't play that great during the season.

[SirLK26]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

People use the word "franchise QB" too loosely. He's not a franchise QB at this point and time. Period. The 49ers were just as good with Alex Smith behind the helm which shows you it wasn't the QB responsible for their winning.

The only franchise QBs in this league currently are: Rodgers, Manning, Brady, Brees, Rivers, Romo, Ryan, Roethlisberger........and maybe Stafford.

Others have the potential to be but simply aren't there quite yet.

You're right, but Kaepernick's close enough and young enough to get paid like a franchiser. Like I said before, he was overpaid, but at the same time, he had all the leverage and SF couldn't really take the chance on letting him walk.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SirLK26

You're right, but Kaepernick's close enough and young enough to get paid like a franchiser. Like I said before, he was overpaid, but at the same time, he had all the leverage and SF couldn't really take the chance on letting him walk.

That's the way business is done now with QB's. Sometimes you have to overpay.

[tshile]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

That's the way business is done now with QB's. Sometimes you have to overpay.

with tv deals and the enormous pay day you get for making the playoffs, advancing in the playoffs, making the superbowl, and winning the superbowl (how big of a payday you get goes up depending on how far you go...) overpaying here and there is easily made up for if you wind up being right.

for example - we overpaid to acquire griffin, and we're going to overpay to keep him. If we wind up with multiple NFC championship appearances and at least one SB, it's going to wind up being worth the cost.

given how much money the NFL is currently making, they're gambling with free money anyways. NFL ownership practically comes with a license to print money these days. the only real cost is the salary cap consequences...

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

People use the word "franchise QB" too loosely. He's not a franchise QB at this point and time. Period. The 49ers were just as good with Alex Smith behind the helm which shows you it wasn't the QB responsible for their winning.

The only franchise QBs in this league currently are: Rodgers, Manning, Brady, Brees, Rivers, Romo, Ryan, Roethlisberger........and maybe Stafford.

Others have the potential to be but simply aren't there quite yet.

Stafford, no, absolutely not. I agree with what else you are saying but not on Stafford

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

Stafford, no, absolutely not. I agree with what else you are saying but not on Stafford

Ill say it, RG3 > Stafford

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

People use the word "franchise QB" too loosely. He's not a franchise QB at this point and time. Period. The 49ers were just as good with Alex Smith behind the helm which shows you it wasn't the QB responsible for their winning.

The only franchise QBs in this league currently are: Rodgers, Manning, Brady, Brees, Rivers, Eli, Romo, Ryan, Roethlisberger........and maybe Stafford.

Others have the potential to be but simply aren't there quite yet.

Fixed .........


All jokes aside ,Romo,Ryan, Stafford are nothing but good QBs and their teams hope they become "franchise QBs" , until they take it to another level as the others have done all they are is good .