Let's talk OTA's

[SirLK26]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

If all that happens, why wouldnt we be able to hang with the "great" NFC teams? The NFC East as a whole is pretty weak, so if all that happens like you said that could be a 11-5 or 12-4 team easy, which this season would have gotten us a 2 seed.

We don't know how the O-line will perform, we don't know how Gruden's offense and playcalling will work, we don't know how well Morris will run with less zone-blocking, etc. There's lots of other question marks. I suppose if that all comes together, which is very unlikely, 11-12 wins isn't completely out of the question. But even then, the record doesn't mean much; we could have a higher seed than either Seattle or SF, but it's very doubtful that we would actually beat them in a head-to-head matchup. Same with New Orleans, Arizona, and probably a few other teams.

But that's a moot point. How likely is it that everything I mentioned comes together the way it's supposed to? Unlikely, right? It takes years to build a winner, and Allen/Gruden are just getting started. Don't think we'll make much noise this year.

[CrazyCanuck]

McConaughey at OTAs

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by CrazyCanuck

McConaughey at OTAs

During practice he stood on the sideline and chatted with former Redskins Super Bowl MVP quarterback Doug Williams and owner Dan Snyder

There goes Snyder again hanging with the stars. (sarcasm)

[MTK]

Originally Posted by CrazyCanuck

McConaughey at OTAs

alright alright alright

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by CrazyCanuck

McConaughey at OTAs

Love the old school logo on his t........
Cool stuff!

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by SirLK26

We don't know how the O-line will perform, we don't know how Gruden's offense and playcalling will work, we don't know how well Morris will run with less zone-blocking, etc. There's lots of other question marks. I suppose if that all comes together, which is very unlikely, 11-12 wins isn't completely out of the question. But even then, the record doesn't mean much; we could have a higher seed than either Seattle or SF, but it's very doubtful that we would actually beat them in a head-to-head matchup. Same with New Orleans, Arizona, and probably a few other teams.

But that's a moot point. How likely is it that everything I mentioned comes together the way it's supposed to? Unlikely, right? It takes years to build a winner, and Allen/Gruden are just getting started. Don't think we'll make much noise this year.

In a wide open weak division? Didn't the Eagles just win last year with a rookie head coach? Have some faith man, I am not saying we go 15-1 and roll to a SB, but to say we wont make noise in the weak NFC East is a little short sighted.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

In a wide open weak division? Didn't the Eagles just win last year with a rookie head coach? Have some faith man, I am not saying we go 15-1 and roll to a SB, but to say we wont make noise in the weak NFC East is a little short sighted.

Agreed. I'm not saying that we are a powerhouse team - we have far too many questions. But it is not like the other three teams in our division are imposing. We have as much chance of winning the division as anyone.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

In a wide open weak division? Didn't the Eagles just win last year with a rookie head coach? Have some faith man, I am not saying we go 15-1 and roll to a SB, but to say we wont make noise in the weak NFC East is a little short sighted.

This opinion just isn't realistic. He's right, to win the division we're talking about an awful lot of things having to go right. Did we address most of our ills in the offseason with personnel moves? Sure, but to expect that to translate into a division title is a little hopeful, because while there are a lot of moves made improving our team, we're still talking about adapting to a new coach, a new offensive line, new receivers learning the route tree and the calls, all of it. We are better off personnel-wise, but now we have a stability issue. We just turned over a big portion of the team and coaching staff. You can't reasonably expect a division title. The Eagles lost DeSean but are otherwise a pretty good team behind that stellar offensive line.

Maybe you're just choosing words poorly and accidentally overstating your case. Because is there a potential scenario where we win the division and make the playoffs? Sure. But can you reasonably EXPECT it? No. You can hope. But you can't expect.

Look at it this simply. If we don't make the playoffs, will you be pissed/upset? If the answer is no then you don't expect a playoff berth. You just hope for one.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

This opinion just isn't realistic. He's right, to win the division we're talking about an awful lot of things having to go right. Did we address most of our ills in the offseason with personnel moves? Sure, but to expect that to translate into a division title is a little hopeful, because while there are a lot of moves made improving our team, we're still talking about adapting to a new coach, a new offensive line, new receivers learning the route tree and the calls, all of it. We are better off personnel-wise, but now we have a stability issue. We just turned over a big portion of the team and coaching staff. You can't reasonably expect a division title. The Eagles lost DeSean but are otherwise a pretty good team behind that stellar offensive line.

Maybe you're just choosing words poorly and accidentally overstating your case. Because is there a potential scenario where we win the division and make the playoffs? Sure. But can you reasonably EXPECT it? No. You can hope. But you can't expect.

Look at it this simply. If we don't make the playoffs, will you be pissed/upset? If the answer is no then you don't expect a playoff berth. You just hope for one.

I am not expecting us to win it, I am saying it is too early to say absolutely we won't.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

I am not expecting us to win it, I am saying it is too early to say absolutely we won't.

Nobody said we absolutely won't. What are you even talking about?

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Nobody said we absolutely won't. What are you even talking about?

The real question is what is your problem??

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

The real question is what is your problem??

i accidentally peed in his wheaties.... i'm sorry guys, my bad.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

The real question is what is your problem??

My problem is that our forums are increasingly packed with idiots who can't think critically and rationally without separating their fanboy feelings for the team. You should not be one of them, you've been here too long.

We all love the team and yes we all want them to win, of course. But for discussion to be at all meaningful we have to have people actually thinking about what they're saying. You can't sit here and in one breath dismiss people who don't like our chances and then in the next breath say you only hope for the playoffs, not expect the playoffs.

I just ask that we start making some f'ing sense or this board will end up like ExtremeSkins in a hurry.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by SirLK26

We don't know how the O-line will perform, we don't know how Gruden's offense and playcalling will work, we don't know how well Morris will run with less zone-blocking, etc. There's lots of other question marks. I suppose if that all comes together, which is very unlikely, 11-12 wins isn't completely out of the question. But even then, the record doesn't mean much; we could have a higher seed than either Seattle or SF, but it's very doubtful that we would actually beat them in a head-to-head matchup. Same with New Orleans, Arizona, and probably a few other teams.

But that's a moot point. How likely is it that everything I mentioned comes together the way it's supposed to? Unlikely, right? It takes years to build a winner, and Allen/Gruden are just getting started. Don't think we'll make much noise this year.

Before RGIII tore his knee up we were kicking Seattle's ass like they stole something. Arizona is inconsistent, especially with Washington getting suspended and Carson as their QB, we have shown that we can hang with New Orleans so what is the issue??

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

Before RGIII tore his knee up we were kicking Seattle's ass like they stole something. Arizona is inconsistent, especially with Washington getting suspended and Carson as their QB, we have shown that we can hang with New Orleans so what is the issue??

Just an FYI, games are 4 quarters, not 1. I think in the end, Seattle showed they were the better team, healthy RG3 or not.