All things offseason discussion part II

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by SirLK26

^Exactly. If he had made better decisions, he might have won the Heisman... or maybe even been known as one of the most successful college football players of all time.

Manziel is a very controversial person, but it's because he's an immature young man who was now just handed a ton of money. Of course he's going to make some questionable decisions. But I stand by what I said before: until he does some stuff that actually shows he's worthy of dislike, I'll continue to root for him. From what I've read about him, he's a good person at heart. Of course, that could be mere blather, but I don't believe you'll read those kinds of things about Ndamakong Suh.

You can be a total fucktard and still win in college. There is a huge difference in college and in the NFL. It's not even remotely close on any level. That's the problem why a good deal of these players don't succeed at the next level is because they skated through high school/college on their dominance over the lesser competition. They in turn think it's going to be just as easy in the NFL and soon come to a sudden reality they weren't expecting.

[SirLK26]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

You can be a total fucktard and still win in college. There is a huge difference in college and in the NFL. It's not even remotely close on any level. That's the problem why a good deal of these players don't succeed at the next level is because they skated through high school/college on their dominance over the lesser competition. They in turn think it's going to be just as easy in the NFL and soon come to a sudden reality they weren't expecting.

I actually though of that same argument(huge difference in talent), but couldn't pass up the opportunity to be sarcastic.

To the bold: I don't think Manziel will fail because of that. He's extremely competitive, and he'll do whatever it takes to succeed.

[ethat001]

If Manziel wins, his teammates won't care about this. It's annoying to them now because he hasn't proved anything and he's getting so much attention. I'd bet many many rookies go to plenty of parties and spend tons of new money -- without being on the front page of ESPN.

But I'd still bet he screws something up big-time before he learns. Can imagine something stupid like a drunken car accident, drug-related suspension, barfight, etc..

[SirLK26]

Haven't seen this posted anywhere on here, so...

Report: Eagles RT Lane Johnson suspended 4 games for PED violation - CBSSports.com

[Gary84Clark]

Originally Posted by SirLK26

Haven't seen this posted anywhere on here, so...

Report: Eagles RT Lane Johnson suspended 4 games for PED violation - CBSSports.com

Chip Kelly is a fraud. His method is fatally flawed. He is judging athletes not by athletic ability but by his personal nuances. He employs a double standard when it comes to character.

[CrustyRedskin]

Cowboys trade 6th round pick to Baltimore for lb Rolondo McClain

[SirLK26]

Originally Posted by CrustyRedskin

Cowboys trade 6th round pick to Baltimore for lb Rolondo McClain

Rolondo McClain... on the Cowboys. That's a perfect match.

The NFL.com article also says Sean Lee was placed on IR. So I suppose they thought they needed more depth; but seriously, just sign some scrub off the street. Don't f****** trade for a headcase like this guy. Although McClain will probably get his act together and be a stud now.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Manziel tones it down . . . by hanging out with Justin Bieber | ProFootballTalk



I guess your a belieber in Manziel?

lol where was Romo? It would have been the douchebag trifecta.

[CrustyRedskin]

[QUOTE=Mattyk;1075095]lol where was Romo? It would have been the douchebag trifecta.[/QU

The Biebs was probably massaging his back.

[SirLK26]

Jimmy Graham deemed tight end in system arbitration - NFL.com

[over the mountain]

I heard peyton testified.

not sure if peyton just testified to just facts (% graham was used in WR position vs TE, official title on depth chart etc ) or opinion (graham is a TE).

either way, that is a sure way to create division btw players and coaches.

if peyton just testified as to facts/stats - why couldnt a custodian of records do that or someone not on the actual coaching staff?

edit - seems certain precedent has been established

"Burbank said he only considered those plays because evidence showed that Graham was lined up within four yards of the line on more than 50 percent of his snaps."

"The evidence that appeared to weigh most heavily into Burbank's decision was that Graham was often defended as a tight end even when he lined up in the slot (i.e., by a linebacker or a strong safety)."

NFL arbitrator rules that Jimmy Graham of New Orleans Saints is a tight end - ESPN

[SirLK26]

From what I understand, Payton stated his opinion... that Graham isn't a WR. Which I agree with. But he's also not a TE.

I think Graham is more in the right than the Saints, because as PFT points out(I know, it's PFT, but still), the Saints' and the NFL's position would hypothetically allow teams to line up the Grahams of the league 100% of the time in the slot and still not pay them WR money. Hybrid TEs/jokers aren't TEs, nor are they WRs; designate a new position, call it a joker or whatever, and put the franchise tag number in the middle, around 9 million. Outside receivers have more market value, but Graham would also get more money in the open market than a traditional TE. Seems like the most logical solution to me.

I think Graham comes across looking like an a** to a lot of people, but I don't see anything wrong with him wanting to get paid fairly for what he does. The franchise tag system being faulty isn't his fault.

[JoeRedskin]

I don't think Graham comes across as an ass. He was trying to maximize his value. It's the 'Murican way.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

I don't think Graham comes across as an ass. He was trying to maximize his value. It's the 'Murican way.

Yeah can't blame him for trying. He seemed to have a case worth hearing.

[Dirtbag59]

A douchebag, a wifebeater, and an alcoholic walk into a bar.....

Johnny Football partied with Bieber, because of course he did | New York Post