All things offseason discussion part II

[Chico23231]

WATCH: Johnny Manziel pretends giant stack of cash is cell phone - CBSSports.com

spoil rich white douche

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

WATCH: Johnny Manziel pretends giant stack of cash is cell phone - CBSSports.com

spoil rich white douche

I hope Hoyer plays so well that Manziel never sees the field during the regular season.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

I hope Hoyer plays so well that Manziel never sees the field during the regular season.

If your a teamate and you see this from a rookie, what goes through your head?

And to believe some people actually bitched about RG3's behavior...simply amazing

[Alvin Walton]

How is that news?
Why would anyone give a feck about that video?
Hating is such a nice hobby.

[Hog1]

Being rich......or white is not a crime you know. Much like skateboarding.
Being a douche should be sufficient
Really should have been drafted by the boys to be hated....properly

[Ruhskins]

Dallas Clark to retire:

Dallas Clark to retire as member of Indianapolis Colts - CBSSports.com

[JoeRedskin]

I imagine Manziel is one of those polarizing guys in a locker room. A lot will love him b/c he epitomizes the "look at me" part of playing sports.

Some players, who are not necessarily bad teammates but who love it when they get to draw attention to themselves, will look at Manziel and think "yeah, I would be doing that too if I could, more power to him." Mixed in with them will be the guys who are the Brett Farve love the game guys - players who really just want to play. It's not a job, it's a game. These groups of players are going to stick up for him and accuse his critics as just being haters.

Other players, the guys who work their craft, who see football as a job and think the best way to succeed is to be team first/individual second, are going to HATE him - even if he is successful on the field.

Admittedly, I don't know much about the guy, but everything I see about him points to a selfish, entitled personality for which I have a baseline dislike. Pretty sure I would be one of those who thought "He better be really damn good and then I will only tolerate him."

Manziel and Griffin? Not even close.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

I imagine Manziel is one of those polarizing guys in a locker room. A lot will love him b/c he epitomizes the "look at me" part of playing sports.

Some players, who are not necessarily bad teammates but who love it when they get to draw attention to themselves, will look at Manziel and think "yeah, I would be doing that too if I could, more power to him." Mixed in with them will be the guys who are the Brett Farve love the game guys - players who really just want to play. It's not a job, it's a game. These groups of players are going to stick up for him and accuse his critics as just being haters.

Other players, the guys who work their craft, who see football as a job and think the best way to succeed is to be team first/individual second, are going to HATE him - even if he is successful on the field.

Admittedly, I don't know much about the guy, but everything I see about him points to a selfish, entitled personality for which I have a baseline dislike. Pretty sure I would be one of those who thought "He better be really damn good and then I will only tolerate him."

Manziel and Griffin? Not even close.

For a second I thought once he became a professional he would cease some of the "act"...now Im realizing this is who he is really is...he is like the messiah of douchebags.

A guy who puts a stack of money up to his ear like its a phone and actually speaks into it is the douchebag prophet.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

For a second I thought once he became a professional he would cease some of the "act"...now Im realizing this is who he is really is...he is like the messiah of douchebags.

A guy who puts a stack of money up to his ear like its a phone and actually speaks into it is the douchebag prophet.

LMAO! Awesome post. I'm still laughing.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

I imagine Manziel is one of those polarizing guys in a locker room. A lot will love him b/c he epitomizes the "look at me" part of playing sports.

Some players, who are not necessarily bad teammates but who love it when they get to draw attention to themselves, will look at Manziel and think "yeah, I would be doing that too if I could, more power to him." Mixed in with them will be the guys who are the Brett Farve love the game guys - players who really just want to play. It's not a job, it's a game. These groups of players are going to stick up for him and accuse his critics as just being haters.

Other players, the guys who work their craft, who see football as a job and think the best way to succeed is to be team first/individual second, are going to HATE him - even if he is successful on the field.

Admittedly, I don't know much about the guy, but everything I see about him points to a selfish, entitled personality for which I have a baseline dislike. Pretty sure I would be one of those who thought "He better be really damn good and then I will only tolerate him."

Manziel and Griffin? Not even close.

^^^^^^^^^^

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by CrustyRedskin

SB winners aren't the only great coaches.

No they are not. Thats because the hand you are dealt has sooo much to do with it. That team was disgustingly blessed with talent also. Im not sure how much Noll had to do with the draft, but between his coaching smarts and the bulk of those players......dang.

[SirLK26]

Why the hate for Manziel? This thing with the money is a non-issue. Now, if he starts skipping Cleveland's workouts, gets caught smoking weed multiple times by the NFL, or kicks other players in the crotch, then I'd understand the dislike. But I don't think he's done anything hate-worthy yet.

Personally, I hope Manziel succeeds in the NFL. It'll take some maturing, but I think he'll grow up with time.

Manziel-Griffin lll is a terrible comparison. Griffin was more mature, more humble, and had a better work ethic coming out. Griffin and Manziel are very different people, with different games as well.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SirLK26

Why the hate for Manziel? This thing with the money is a non-issue. Now, if he starts skipping Cleveland's workouts, gets caught smoking weed multiple times by the NFL, or kicks other players in the crotch, then I'd understand the dislike. But I don't think he's done anything hate-worthy yet.

Personally, I hope Manziel succeeds in the NFL. It'll take some maturing, but I think he'll grow up with time.

Manziel-Griffin lll is a terrible comparison. Griffin was more mature, more humble, and had a better work ethic coming out. Griffin and Manziel are very different people, with different games as well.

People tend to hate douchebags and Johnny definitely is a big one.

[over the mountain]

off-field marketing and branding seems to be very important to him. fairly volatile ingredient.

lebron's "decision" was a disaster but he has done a great job of rebounding and marketing himself as a family man. A lot more crossover markets to tap into as a family guy basketball star vs a basketball star. (puns intentional - im cheesy)

sherman's constant public chatter and now-famous post game interview seemed to work out well for him so far.

Personally, i find manziel's money gesture lame.

but CREAM

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by SirLK26

Why the hate for Manziel? This thing with the money is a non-issue. Now, if he starts skipping Cleveland's workouts, gets caught smoking weed multiple times by the NFL, or kicks other players in the crotch, then I'd understand the dislike. But I don't think he's done anything hate-worthy yet.



Personally, I hope Manziel succeeds in the NFL. It'll take some maturing, but I think he'll grow up with time.



Manziel-Griffin lll is a terrible comparison. Griffin was more mature, more humble, and had a better work ethic coming out. Griffin and Manziel are very different people, with different games as well.

Well said.