Redskins Trademark cancelled

[tshile]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

LOL all these years later and NOW the government cares about Native Americans.

Too bad they don't put their money where their mouths are and actually help them out in a meaningful way.

Another way of looking at it:

Too bad that once they get the name changed (assuming for a minute they do) that their crusade to care about the native americans will stop.

I get sticking up for people that are offended. I have no trouble with that. What I don't get is the need to falsely align yourself with some 'greater good' in such a transparent way. You don't need to pretend to be a crusader to make your opinion on the matter heard. All it does is make you look phony.

The number of people claiming moral outrage yet contributing 0 (zero) to actually help is astounding. I specifically like those that own redskins gear, wear redskins gear, cheer for the redskins, and attend redskins games standing on their moral high horse talking about how morally outraged they are.

They're right up there with the ones making their living covering the team they claim is such a moral hazard t our society.

Strong morals those ones have....

[itvnetop]

Originally Posted by tshile

Another way of looking at it:


The number of people claiming moral outrage yet contributing 0 (zero) to actually help is astounding. I specifically like those that own redskins gear, wear redskins gear, cheer for the redskins, and attend redskins games standing on their moral high horse talking about how morally outraged they are.


Strong morals those ones have....

Believing something is fundamentally wrong doesn't mean you have to go and join the Peace Corps to help save the poor tribes in New Guinea.

Merch and ticket sales are shared throughout the league, so trying to hurt the individual team monetarily doesn't necessarily work. I personally don't wear anything with the name or mascot.

[tshile]

Originally Posted by itvnetop

Believing something is fundamentally wrong doesn't mean you have to go and join the Peace Corps to help save the poor tribes in New Guinea.

I absolutely agree and I'm not trying to disparage name-changers all together; which is a trap that is easy to fall into whenever discussing politics and the onus is on the person talking to make clear who they are referencing and when they are and are not painting with a broad brush, so for that I apologize

My issue is not with people that sympathize with native americans that find offense. My issue is solely with the people that screaming about how morally outraged they are today, when (insert random number) years ago they bought things with Redskins on it and wore it proudly. They sung the song. They watched the games. They attended the stadium.

If you have a moral outrage about something you don't support it. In your analogy.... you don't have to join the peace corp, but you probably shouldn't donate money to the oppressors in New Guinae, and if you do then... well you're a hypocrite and/or a liar. The hypocrisy comes in you (general you) demanding others meet a standard you yourself don't seem to actually meet, the liar comes in by saying you're outraged yet actively supporting the thing you're claiming to be outraged about.

There are plenty of redskins fans that sympathize with native americans that find offense. There's nothing wrong with supporting both sides in my opinion. It's all about how you support either side, or more importantly how you treat others that seem to lack the same support you do.

Originally Posted by itvnetop

Merch and ticket sales are shared throughout the league, so trying to hurt the individual team monetarily doesn't necessarily work. I personally don't wear anything with the name or mascot.

It's not about hurting the team, it's about living up to a standard you're demanding others meet.

It's kind of like my whole opinion on the thing... When the Native Americans stop using the word themselves for their sports team and citing it as a source of honor and pride, I'll start considering whether our team should change its name; even then it would be hard to agree with them given the long history of that meaning existing.