Redskins Trademark cancelled

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

I would say that the flaw in your argument is that present day soldiers consider themselves patriots, just like the patriots of the Paul Revere days, and could also be appreciated for who they are now in terms of looks and uniform. So why represent the Paul Revere Patriot and not the "Desert Storm" Patriot?

In terms of the Redskins logo, again, it was not whitey who created the logo - it was a Native American artist. Obviously, the artist understood the concepts of many NFL logos, which goes back to my previous point. The logos represent history and was meant to honor the Native American's history much like the Native Americans do when their tribes get together for ceremonies and dances (I have a Native American friend who's family attends these Indian tribal dances every year.)

1) I have no problem with New England representing modern day patriots. But in their logos, they don't. They represent patriots who are dead, unlike Indians who have a continued existence.

2) To say, "it was not whitey who created the logo," is a little disingenuous. Yes, a native artist did the rendering, and this is a point that I don't think Amanda Blackhorse has considered. But it was created for a white owner of a football team, so "whitey" was involved.

3) I have participated in the ceremonies of which you speak. You are right that they honor history and heritage. But it is also true that real, living people in the present seek real, living experiences of the present through those dances. They are not just museum pieces but a living, ongoing source of spirituality. Our logo, however, represents a dead past and that's all.

Again, I am not personally arguing against the logo. But I can understand the arguments of the people who have a problem with it.